Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Casualties of the Beslan school hostage crisis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Wikipedia is not a memorial. (ESkog)(Talk) 14:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Clarification (since it was requested): WP:NOT arose from the 9/11 attacks, when it was determined that Wikipedia was not the proper place for the list of the dead from a tragedy. This seems to fall under that. (ESkog)(Talk) 17:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Casualties of the Beslan school hostage crisis

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Violation of WP:NOT. --Nyp 19:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep This is encyclopedic information that would make the Beslan school hostage crisis article overly long if included in the main article.User:Gorgeous Ferns 19:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Looking at the list had an impact on how I viewed the event, rather than just looking at the number of people that died.--Ng.j 21:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * keep WP:NOT. this is not a memorial; it is rather legitimate encyclopedic information, if of questionable value and notability, for which it has not been nominated. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 23:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. I'm sure there are better places for this information. --Dhartung | Talk 02:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep This is without any doubt encyclopedic information that could helps people who are interested about this tragedy to have exact numbers and names of victims. How old the victim were, how many fathers, mothers, preteen childred died there, how many family members died there. It's also useful for book writers or journalists who want to write articles about terrorist's attacks to have these exact information. And most important thing, it helps to fully understand extent of this tragedy. Without list of victims information about Beslan school hostage crisis is simply incomplete. And very last thing. The main article contains the list of terrorists. Is this OK ? This is not 'memorial' ? Because for some people those terorists are heros. So murders can have their memorial ? If there is the list of terrorists then what's wrong with the list of their victims ? What's the difference between these two lists ? --Timmy_A 2:00PM, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete It is not necessary to have a directory of each person who died in a tragedy to appreciate the magnitude of the tragedy. Summary information in the main article is sufficient. Wikipedia is not a memorial. We do not generally have the names and life stories of everyone killed in a plane crash, or in terrorist attacks or in wars. Edison 20:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete While I feel for the vitctims and their relatives, this is not encyclopedic. If this is included, we should create similar lists for Casualties of the Titanic, Causualties of the september 11 2001 attacks, Causalties of the second world war. This would get out of hand. Wikipedia is not a memorial.Dr bab 21:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Chanted from Weak Keep to Delete Wikipedia is not a memorial for "departed friends and relatives" but this was an event that received worldwide attention. The persons listed are non-notable --FateClub 23:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP is not a memorial. I am not interested seeing many such a lists sprouting around because "X is also here". Pavel Vozenilek 09:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Just the kind of list that a paper encyclopedia couldn't fit, but that makes WP truly exceptional in coverage of recent events. Smmurphy(Talk) 04:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete, as WP:NOT is pretty concrete as to why this sort of thing is not encyclopedic, and also for the fact that victims are not notable themselves. The "keep" arguments are all variations of I like it. Tarc 21:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT. cs 19:08, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep it will be difficult for anyone to do research without listing of names and over time this will become even more difficult. 148.63.236.141 02:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 'Delete per WP:NOT. Also, this information is not encyclopedic. --Dariusk 03:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:NOT say: "Memorials. Wikipedia is not the place to honor departed friends and relatives. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must be notable besides being fondly remembered.". Obviously, this is very notable case; and it is important to have all relevant data. This information is encyclopedic. Biophys 03:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.