Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CatCat


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The result was keep. Consensus is that participation at Eurovision satisfies notability requirements. (non-admin closure) f eminist 16:28, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

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Fails WP:NM. PROD opposed because "Not notable is not a reason for deletion." Argento Surfer (talk) 14:59, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Mark the trainDiscuss 15:18, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. Mark the trainDiscuss 15:18, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:11, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - Article needs improvements for sure. But has participated in Eurovision a major televised music competition the biggest in the world in fact. Per WP:MUSIC and WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note - The subject did participate in Eurovision Song Contest 1994, where it finished 22 out of 25. WP:MUSICBIO item 9 indicates notability comes from 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place only. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:43, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Then implicitly they must have won the Finnish national heats. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:53, 11 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep participating in Eurovision is enough for a presumption of notability; almost all participants will have either won a domestic-level music competition, or will have songs that appear on a national music chart. Even if this group is one of the few exceptions, it is worth keeping this simply for completeness; the information in the article is easily verifiable. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 15:20, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't suppose you can find evidence that this band won a domestic-level music competition or had songs that appear on a national music chart? The sources you added to the article only prove what's already available at Eurovision Song Contest 1994. Argento Surfer (talk) 16:47, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * suggests they did win a national-level competition to qualify for Eurovision; I'm not 100% confident in either the source's reliability or the machine translation, though. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 14:21, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Eurovision is a bye for musical notability. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:53, 11 October 2017 (UTC)


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