Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Catalan Republic (2017) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Per WP:SKCRIT6. Feel free to renominate after it is removed from the main page. (non-admin closure) Jdcomix (talk) 17:08, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Catalan Republic (2017)
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This is a content fork of Declaration of Independence of Catalonia - that is, it needlessly duplicates content better covered there and in related articles such as Catalan independence referendum, 2017, 2017 Spanish constitutional crisis and Catalonia. There's no need to repeat the same, relatively limited facts concerning the recent political shenanigans in Catalonia in multiple (possibly contradictory) articles.

Moreover, recent events indicate that this self-declared state has no substance to it: it does not effectively control its claimed territory, and it does not seem to have a functioning government or other institutions. Basically, all that can be said about it is the fact that independence was declared, Spain set various legal and constitutional procedures in motion, and the leading separatists fled abroad. These events can all be better covered, with appropriate context, in the other articles mentioned at the outset.  Sandstein  16:45, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Per WP:SKCRIT #6 ("The article is currently linked from the Main Page.") AusLondonder (talk) 16:49, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The problem with main page linking can be resolved by creating a redirect to Declaration of Independence of Catalonia after deletion. It's basically the same content anyway.  Sandstein   16:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Delete (with merge of content to the declaration). For 3 days a Republic did not exist. So the name in and of itself is a blatant case of wp:recentism, wp:toosoon and wp:crystal ball. This is the stupid thing with rapid and immediate creation of articles that are in reality little more than stubs, or should be subsections of more encompassing articles. Koncorde (talk) 17:06, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as this basically exposes the same reasons for deletion under which the previous deletion request was rejected (just noting that It doesn't matter if it exists; it matters if it has media coverage, which it does). Also, that someone has been intent on trying to copy-paste info from this article to Declaration of Independence of Catalonia doesn't turn this one into a fork of that one. That article covers the specific resolution and should be limited to it (whoever is turning it into a copy-paste of info of Catalan Republic (2017) is doing the wrong thing). If anything, it's that article which should be merged into this one if people think there should not be two articles covering these topics, as the scope of Catalan Republic (2017) is larger than just the independence declaration. But copy-pasting content from here over there to argue that this one should be removed because this info has been put there is non-sense. Impru20 (talk) 16:53, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep This article is sufficiently different from Declaration of Independence of Catalonia, and covered a broader topic as well as the proposed country's attempts at international recognition. ErieSwiftByrd (talk) 17:07, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.