Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cathi Bond


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The result was keep. Tone 18:39, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Cathi Bond

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Does not meet WP:GNG. The only independent source is an Xtra Magazine review of their book. They were employed by The Globe and Mail. All other mentions of Cathi Bond are trivial and the notability guidelines indicate that more than one source is typically expected. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:07, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:33, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep. The article's claim that she wrote for The Globe and Mail is actually not verifiable — on a ProQuest search to see if there were other sources that this could be salvaged with, I did not get any hits where Cathi Bond was the bylined author of the piece, the way I would have if she'd actually been the bylined writer of any Globe and Mail content. And even her own LinkedIn résumé (not a source for use as footnoting, but still helpful in determining what to look for sources for) doesn't claim that she's ever worked for the G&M either. So that claim actually has to be removed from the article, and thus doesn't invalidate the Zoe Whittall piece as unable to contribute notability points. And while I didn't find as much coverage about Cathi Bond as a subject as I would like to see in a genuinely good article, I am able to add enough to tip the scales. Bearcat (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete agree that there is no proof that she worked for Globe and Mail, but two short articles - one of which is a review of her book- doesn't makeWP:GNG. I did a search and I am also not seeing any additional sources.
 * Except that there aren't just two sources anymore, there are four. Bearcat (talk) 18:18, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I can't actually access the other two sources so I have no way of knowing if they are appropriate. FiddleheadLady (talk) 18:29, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * We do not have a rule that only online sources count toward notability while offline sources don't. Bearcat (talk) 18:32, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * it looks like you recently added those sources. Are they on newspapers.com or something? Do they have decent coverage of Cathi Bond or her book? Considering the G&M source is actually independent I would agree that the subject is probably notable, but if these aditional sources have at least 100 words then I think the article clearly meets WP:GNG.TipsyElephant (talk) 19:10, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep or merge with book . The book unambiguously passes WP:NBOOK so if Bond herself is not considered notable, the existing material should be moved to a new article on the book as a “background” section. Since notability is not inherited, that might be the most strictly accurate way to do it. But especially with Bearcat’s finds, I think there’s enough out there for GNG. And I dislike the move option because there’s less scope for growth and improvement of the narrower book article, so I prefer to keep the bio. ~ L 🌸  (talk) 19:26, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm re-adding the above because it looks like it got removed in an edit conflict. I've just gone through my own library to find a little more coverage of Bond. The two I added are fairly brief references, but refer to her as a longstanding and prominent figure in Canadian broadcasting. All together I the coverage supports a pass of GNG, and I suspect additional coverage exists in print. ~ L 🌸  (talk) 20:00, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Rynor's 2006 "Podcasters reflect on a revolution in listening" piece includes 168 words on The Sniffer, Bond, and Young. I really like this quote from Bond, though I don't think it's very encyclopedic: "'Podcasting is about doing every single thing the CBC won't let me do. "Rein it in. Rein it in." I got so sick of hearing that,' she says." All of my and Bearcat's sources are in ProQuest. I read Bearcat's and they're similar to what I found, a couple sentences in a fairly brief news article, but since they pop up consistently from 1999 to 2013, increasingly refer to Bond herself as a well-known figure, and sometimes go over 100 words I am now very confident that this is a pass of GNG. Just found a mention in an announcement of rabble.ca for example that says it features "some well-known Canadian broadcasters and artists including broadcasters Nora Young and Cathi Bond." And a very funny 2005 review of a few CBC podcasts-- apparently the hosts were on strike from the CBC? -- which pans The Sniffer. ~ L 🌸  (talk) 20:28, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. Night Town, is clearly notable, so we ought to have an article about the book or its author. Since we've already got this page, let's keep it. pburka (talk) 18:32, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep As the added sources meet GNG.Jackattack1597 (talk) 10:40, 6 July 2021 (UTC)


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