Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Catholic churches in Hawaii


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to List of parishes of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Honolulu. Content will still be in the page histories if anyone wants to preform a merger. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Catholic churches in Hawaii


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All of these church articles are microstubs with no sources and altogether without indications of notability. I would suggest a merge for these articles to the diocese article, but without any sources on any of these, there's nothing to merge. Nyttend (talk) 13:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge all to List of parishes of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Honolulu.  A "hide in plain sight" award to the author of all these articles, who avoided deletion for almost four years.  This all seems to be part of a pet project in 2005 by an editor of longstanding.  Apparently, it didn't open the door for thousands of articles about every church, mosque, synagogue, temple, etc. in the world, but there doesn't seem to be anything notable about these individual Hawaiian church parishes.  If any of them support a high school, then merge the detailed information to the school article and keep the redirecting entry on the parish list.  Mandsford (talk) 14:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hawaii-related deletion discussions.  —TexasAndroid (talk) 15:19, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  —TexasAndroid (talk) 15:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge all as Mandsford. This could be done as a tabular list, which would enable the information of the patron saints etc to be preserved.  If any of them are particularly notable, an article can be re-created, but this must be as a substanive article, not a mere stub.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge all - information deserves to be included in Wikipedia, but most (all?) of these are not notable for their own articles. If any prove notable enough, they can always have their own articles if someone ever decides to write one. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What is there to merge? None of these articles have any sources — there are other likely nonnotables in the same group, but I intentionally did not nominate them here — and there is nothing about high schools in any of them.  Nyttend (talk) 15:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge per above. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Regarding the question of merger, it seems like the obvious solution to me. We have an article about the Diocese of Honolulu; each of these articles is about a parish within that diocese.  Our rule about communities does not extend to church parishes, any more so than it would to districts for Rotary International, so the parishes aren't entitled to their own individual article.  I recognize that a merger would also result in 20 redirects, while a deletion would not.  Ultimately, the end result is the same-- the 20 articles would be removed, and whatever information is worth salvaging can be mentioned in the article about the diocese.  What goes in the diocese article is up to the last person who edits it.  Mandsford (talk) 22:52, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete all Changing my vote on further reconsideration. There is no reason that a non-notable church should have its own entry on Wikipedia, if it is serving only as a redirect.  If they aren't already mentioned in the article about the diocese, there's time to do that before these are all deleted. Mandsford (talk) 14:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete all Relevant information can be merged into the article on the diocese, if needed. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 18:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.