Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Catholics who have played for Rangers F.C


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Proto :: ►  12:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Catholics who have played for Rangers F.C

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A trivia page. Fails WP:NOT HornetMike 20:26, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. HornetMike 20:26, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, if anything notable did happen due to the players being Catholics but playing for Rangers, it should be noted in the article on the player, and perhaps in the club article. A list is not the right way to go. – Elisson • T • C • 20:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. In Glasgow, football allegiances have traditionally been linked to religious affiliation. As the Rangers F.C. article says, "the club has traditionally been identified with the Protestant Unionist community of Scotland." Similarly, the Celtic F.C. has traditionally been supported by the Roman Catholic community of Glasgow. So the significance of this list is that the football team has in recent years hired some players without regard to (or in spite of) their religious affiliation, which might not have happened 50 years ago. --Eastmain 21:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - seems like a fairly pointless article, and it lacks any references or sources to show notability. Jayden54 21:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and don't even think about creating Protestants who have played for Celtic F.C.. Guy (Help!) 22:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - crufty and fails WP:V due to the lax rules of inclusion, as well the divisive tone and nature; many clubs have traditionally white-dominated fanbases but we don't remark on the unusualness of black players playing for them. Qwghlm 22:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. I freely admit that I don't much care about religion or football, so perhaps I'm just biased, but then again, if someone were to create an article about, say, atheists who have made really great movies, I'd want to delete that one, too. This is just utterly pointless. -- Captain Disdain 22:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. It may have a positive effect in that it might help combat anti-catholic sentiment.Arjan14 01:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * User's first edit. (And the argument is irrelevant; that's not a valid reason to keep or delete an article. It also looks like a straw man to me -- what anti-Catholic sentiment? I'm not an expert, but is that really a huge problem with football teams?) -- Captain Disdain 09:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd also say it's fairly unlikely that anyone in Scotland who does currently espouse anti-Catholic sentiments will read this article and say "You know what, from now on I'm going to stop being anti-Catholic based on an article I read on Wikipedia"..... ChrisTheDude 09:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep handy primer to Scottish sectarianism. Catchpole 08:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)]


 * Keep- I created the article for people interested in sectarianism in Scottish footballSR4VA 12:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Perhaps means something, perhaps not, but nearly all of this user's few contributions relate to this article and this AfD. Archibald99 21:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep You perhaps have to be Scottish to understand why this is important -Docg 14:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Which, as Angus McLellan points out below, is an excellent reason to delete.--Docg 19:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Uh-huh. Well, you should perhaps explain this importance to us non-Scots. If this importance is impossible to convey, I have to question its existence. -- Captain Disdain 14:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - Well perhaps Sectarianism in Scottish football is worthy of an article itself, but this is a trivia list which has no solid parameters. And no, I don't have to be Scottish to understand this. HornetMike 14:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - Agree with HornetMike that best place for this would be in an article on on Sectarianism in Scottish Football, but oh boy, what a can of worms that article would be. Yorkshiresky 15:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment There is Sectarianism in Glasgow, which has a Football section, and already mentions the things in this article which have citations. Oldelpaso 18:48, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep or at the very lease Merge with the Rangers FC article. Niall123 22:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete: The necessary information in this article is already in Rangers F.C. and other articles. As said above, it is a trivia page, is unverifiable and fails WP:NOT. Archibald99 21:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Intrinsically POV as criterion does not seem relevant. There are several other religions represented, they shouldbe given equal coverage, and the main article is the place. DGG 03:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, per Doc Glasgow's masterful exposition of why no-one who doesn't live in the former Strathclyde should care, and per Archibald99's explanation of the redundancy of this list. IIRC, there was a Sectarianism in Scottish football, or something like that, but it was deleted as a piece of nonsense. The broader subject would be worth writing a decent article on, but there's nothing here which would be useful for that. Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Archibald & Angus McLellan. Trivia fork of Rangers F.C. --maclean 06:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.