Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cattle Herd Skirmish


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The result was   delete. j⚛e deckertalk 16:05, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Cattle Herd Skirmish

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A minor altercation happened, just like on nearly every day in this period. No reliable independent source has given this skirmish significant attention (there are eyewitness accounts in published diaries, but these aren't independent of course), the name "Cattle Herd Skirmish" is a Wikipedia-only invention for a cattle raid that hasn't received a name in any source I could find.

The book "Battles and Skirmishes of the Great Sioux War, 1876-1877: The Military View", 258 pages from the Univeristy of Oklahoma Press about the battles and skirmishes of this war, does not mention this skirmish, which seems rather definite proof that this is not a notable skirmish and more an attempt at writing history and conducting WP:OR than actually summarizing the existing secondary sources, which Wikipedia should do. Fram (talk) 07:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. This is getting really silly. Next up: Cavalry Officer Tongue Burning While Drinking Coffee. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete as utterly non-notable on its own. It was obviously part of a larger campaign and as such could be mentioned in that article, so I would not oppose a merge. Intothatdarkness 15:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Minor event with no legitimate historical significance. I'd safely consider Jerome Green's book (the one cited by Fram) definitive in the absence of strong evidence to the contrary; he's a significant expert in this period. And he doesn't mention it. The name given by this article is original research as well, a wholly novel coinage. Mostly, this just serves as a coatrack to elevate the importance of John Wright. I don't have access to the 1961 book used to reference the claim that he's considered the Great Sioux War's first casualty, but I can't find that assertion in the sources I have at hand. In the event this is deleted, references to it need to be excised from the several places they've been added in other articles. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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