Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caucasus International


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The result was   delete.  Sandstein  06:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Caucasus International

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Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable journal. Only one short independent source. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG." Article was dePRODded with edit summary "I did everything whch you described as deletion reason", but only some external links were added to the homepages of some other publications that have unconfirmed "partnerships and advertising agreements" with this journal. The only independent (?) source is to News.Az (a doubtful reliable source, given that most of its articles are clear propaganda pieces of the Azeri government). The journal is apparently included in some EBSCO databases, but that is not sufficient to meet WP:NJournals. The PROD reason still stands, hence: Delete. Guillaume2303 (talk) 12:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep An academic journal that offers a place for the debates among the scholars from Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Turkey is resolutely notable. Of course the claim needs to be sourced. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 21:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no doubt that it "offers a place for the debates among the scholars from Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Turkey", that's what their homepage says and I have no reason to doubt that. The question here, however, is whether anyone has noted this (i.e., whether there are independent sources that say this is important). This is not the case, so it seems to be resolutely non-notable. Just the fact that it exists is not sufficient for inclusion, I'd say. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 10:10, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * There is actually a substantial doubt that it "offers a place for the debates among the scholars from Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Turkey", given the long history of similar publications produced in Turkey that are propaganda organs (such as the journal of the "Institute for Armenian Research", an organisation that is now operating as part of the "Center for Eurasian Studies"). The only way to know would be to find out what other sources have said about it. Meowy 16:51, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * And since it is based in Baku, and a part of the Center for Strategic Studies (CSS) in Baku, it would be acting against the laws of Azerbaijan if it were genuinely were a "place for the debates among the scholars from Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Turkey". Meowy 16:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)




 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 23:08, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Weak delete. WP:TOOSOON for the usual notability standards for journals. The Hurriyet piece goes some way towards WP:GNG, bypassing WP:NJournals, but the news.az source just looks like a press release scraper to me. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's not yet notable as a journal or magazine; I couldnt find any independent in-depth sources about the magazine. John Vandenberg (chat) 22:21, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 12:19, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete: The current status of Caucasus International definitely does not meet Wikipedia criteria to have its own page. This group just recently came out so it has a long way to redeem its identity as reliable/notable enough to stay in Wikipedia in the FUTURE. Nocturnal781 (talk) 05:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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