Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Causeless cause


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Unmoved mover. Liz Read! Talk! 06:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Causeless cause

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The encylopaedic topic on this subject is covered in Unmoved mover and its redirect Uncaused cause and this page makes a claim for Causeless cause being something else, viz a matter in Theosophy. However it is clearly not a major topic as the Theosophy wiki does not cover it. This page has been a stub for years, and the page creator has himself twice discussed deletion on the talk page and now says he is not interested.

I considered a bold redirect to Unmoved mover but as the substance of this article claims this is a different topic, I believe a deletion discussion is appropriate. I propose deletion, and the redirect (if any) should be to Unmoved mover as there is no other encylopaedic topic. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:07, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spirituality-related deletion discussions. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:07, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Redirect and/or merge wherever: I either forgot unmoved mover at the time or misunderstood but causeless cause is identical: appropriate redirect there or (as had been done in the past) to own section in Madame Blavatsky or Theosophy articles--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 08:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but including information there would involve a merge. I don't think this is mergeable. I expect if you try to add Theosophy stuff on that page (Unmoved mover) it may be reverted - although you are welcome to try. I don't think the concept is notable in Theosophy even, as discussed, which is why I think deletion is called for. I oppose a redirect to a Theosophy or Madame Blavatsky article for the reasons stated. The only encylopaedic topic is the Unmoved mover. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:31, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * It's a key topic in Madame Blavatsky's largest, most difficult book, just as unmoved mover is in Aristotle's metaphysics--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 08:35, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * For context, my comment was made before "merge" was added in this edit: Per. WP:TALK please avoid changing context of past discussion by changing your comments after someone else has replied. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:30, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete and redirect I agree with what has been said here. It's worth deleting this article and just redirecting the article name to Unmoved mover. Psychologist Guy (talk) 16:40, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Unmoved mover as argued above; there is no content worth merging. Deleting before creating the redirect is probably not necessary but would be harmless. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 17:13, 21 August 2022 (UTC)


 * 'Redirect to Unmoved mover per above 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 14:28, 22 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.