Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cecilia (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep (nomination withdrawn).  howch e  ng   {chat} 00:31, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Cecilia (band)
Visible, but not quite notable enough band MNewnham 21:07, 27 December 2005 (UTC)


 * From WP:NOT: "Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia. This means that there is no practical limit to the number of topics we can cover other than verifiability and the other points presented on this page." Therefore, being "not quite notable" is not a significant reason to delete the article.  There are plenty of artist articles on WP that are less visible and less notable than this one.  Just because you haven't heard of them isn't a reason to drop the article.   dsemaya 06:56, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Whether I have heard of them or not is not a criteria for inclusion on AfD. Please familiarize yourself with WP:MUSIC. My research indicates that the band does not meet the criteria for inclusion laid out there, but you are free to dispute that on this page. I have nothing personal against the band, and if the criteria for inclusion are met, I will happily withdraw the nomination.
 * If you see bands on wikipedia that do not meet WP:MUSIC, you are free to nominate them for deletion.
 * MNewnham 17:31, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


 * "Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour over notable musical venues in at least one large or medium-sized country[2], reported in notable and verifiable sources." The band's web site has in the past shown national tour dates (verifiable via archive.org's wayback machine) and a Google search for "cecilia veltz" will show countless articles from publications nationwide on the story of this band.  The band plays regularly in both DC and NYC, showing that they are more than a local presence.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020808090551/www.ceciliatheband.com/schedule.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20021014133146/ceciliatheband.com/schedule.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20030226165053/www.ceciliatheband.com/schedule/index.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20010407130008/ceciliatheband.com/tourdates.html

The URLs above show that the band regularly plays shows in 4 non-contiguous states including the historic Knitting Factory and (now gone) Wetlands Preserve in New York. One of the band's albums was recorded at the famous Manhattan Theatre Source. This is all information that will eventually make it into the article if it is allowed to live.

The band's video page includes their home movies shot while on their national tour that reached LA in 2003. dsemaya 21:51, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Good, lets get this on the page and make them notable. Nomination WithdrawnMNewnham 01:28, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.