Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Celebrities who have been involved in incidents resulting in death


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 05:20, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Celebrities who have been involved in incidents resulting in death

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Major POV issues (what is an incident? does murder count?). Lots of potential to violate WP:BLP as well. | Mr. Darcy talk 03:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I have also started an AfD on a very similar article Articles for deletion/List of people who became famous after surviving a near-fatal event Gwernol 19:17, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. Needs sources but I don't see any problem with this. These are well-documented events. --JJay 03:45, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand with Death_of_Diana,_Princess_of_Wales Tonytypoon 20:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. (1) Ill-defined (celebrity? incident? resulting?). (2) POV issue (see possible misuse. Note: I reverted my own edit on realizing that it violated WP:POINT). (3) Identically titled category was up for CfD recently: see discussion here. Abecedare 04:00, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Note that the nomination for deletion of the category pointed out that a category was unnecessary precisely because this list already existed. "X should be deleted because Y already exists" followed by "Y should be deleted because X was deleted" defies logic. Grutness...wha?  08:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Clarification: I linked to to the CfD not because that is the reason to delete the list, but rather because there were arguments raised there that some may find relevant to this AfD. Abecedare 17:57, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah - apologies. I misunderstood your comment. Grutness...wha?  07:08, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Abecedare. Poorly defined and not incredibly encyclopedic. -- Kicking222 04:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unlike the "terminally ill" list, which is also under discussion, this list is ill-defined, as others have noted.  What is a celebrity?  What constitutes an incident?  In a broad sense, even a heart attack constitutes an incident, and (unfortunately) that path to demise afflicts even the best among us.  So this list is undefinable and thus unacceptable. 129.98.212.144 05:30, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or rename. I see where the author is going with it, and I think there's some value in a list like this, but "involved in accidents resulting in death" is way too nebulous. George W. Bush was "involved" with the Iraq War... does that count? If this article could give birth to a People convicted of murder or Survivors of deadly incidents or whatever, those might be good, because they set down in the title exactly what the content will be. Dylan 06:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete POV issues, hopelessly unable to become something encyclopedia. No existing critera, the mere title of this page sheds light on the impossible subjectivity of it. Yank sox  07:13, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename/clarify. As someone who has edited this page in the past, I can see some value in it - but the current name is too open to individual interpretation, as pointed out above. Grutness...wha?  08:32, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom  Hut   8.5   15:05, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Every celebrity will be involved in an incident resulting in death at least once, their own. Danny Lilithborne 20:21, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * delete not another list pleaseDroliver 21:41, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * delete Too macabre --- Skapur 22:05, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment While I agree with the consensus that this article should be deleted (as it is a pretty broad subject), several narrower lists might be appropriate. like "Celebrities suspected of murder" or "celebrities involved in traffic fatalities" .  Maybe better as a category though.  FrozenPurpleCube 05:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete the scope (how it defined "involved with") is too broad, and this really does not provide any encyclopedic value.-- danntm T C 03:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, as noted POV issues make it impossible to define who is included and who excluded. Better yet, I love Danny Lilithborne's excellent point. Gwernol 19:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete The sort of stuff WP:LIVING wikipedia biography policy is supposed to prevent. Unsourced or poorly sourced items listed without verification and alleging controversial material. --Eqdoktor 17:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - unmaintainable cruft. Moreschi Deletion! 20:35, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. CRGreathouse (t | c) 09:34, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.