Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Celeste De Luna


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  13:39, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Celeste De Luna

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I PRODed this earlier, with the reason: "none of these sources are independent; doesn't pass WP:GNG or WP:NARTIST (even the recent press releases celebrating her art can only say that one of her prints is on the cover of an academic book)". It was dePRODed by the original writer of the article with the note "will be changing sourcing style", which I can't really make sense of; at any rate it's still mostly the same article. The image is probably unintentional copyvio.

The San Antonio website in the external links has a 2021 copy of her CV, which presumably does not omit any major exhibitions or work in permanent collections. It doesn't look to me like there is enough here to justify having an article on her at this time, though it looks reasonably likely that there will be in the future, later in her career.

(WikiEdu student editor; please be as unbitey as you can in arguments for deletion!) asilvering (talk) 07:44, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete sadly I think the proposer is right; it's WP:TOOSOON at least. I can't find anything much on De Luna, and WP has quite exacting requirements of artists. I personally like her work, but there are a lot of good printmakers out there, and we really need some independent writing about her, or some outstanding, major exhibitions if we're to have a good article. Elemimele (talk) 11:38, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable. The user who created the article is a single-purpose account. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 15:43, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @LSGH article creator is a student who created the article as a WIKI-EDU assignment. It is doubtful that SPA applies to this article in relation to having a COI or to PROMO. Netherzone (talk) 16:12, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, does not meet WP:NARTIST (work(s) not in significant exhibitions/permanent collections of wikinotable galleries/museums, WP:RS reviews) bitey ggrrrrss not at article creator but at teachers/tutors of the course who should be directing students to wikinotable peeps/topics. Coolabahapple (talk) 07:12, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Coolabahapple I direct my ggrrrrss at WikiEdu's training materials... here's what they give students on choosing topics (pg 6): . I appreciate that notability guidelines can be pretty arcane but not even mentioning the concept is setting both students and instructors up to fail. -- asilvering (talk) 18:41, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems like the Wiki_edu training materials may need updating to include more in-depth descriptions of what constitutes significant coverage, reliable sources, notability criteria in specific fields for example WP:NARTIST, etc. It seems like there have been a lot of these student-created articles with marginal notability (or no notability per WP standards). What I also find perplexing is that the professors don't seem to be actively involved, but maybe (?) that is how WikiEdu is structured? It seems many of these creations waste the time of the students who could potentially become good editors, as well as those who participate at AfD. Anyways, that's probably a discussion for another venue. Netherzone (talk) 19:09, 1 January 2022 (UTC)


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