Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Celia Berrell


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The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 17:45, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Celia Berrell

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Non-notable writer/poet. She has several writing credits (which isn't unexpected as a writer), but nothing that appears to get close to the criteria described by the WP:AUTHOR guideline. There also doesn't appear to be anything that satisfies the GNG. Bjelleklang -  talk 23:48, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Celia Berrell is a very notable poet. very few poets ever get published. She has her work in the High School Text books in Three Countries - Australia, Ireland and Canada. Education institutions in those countries consider her work worth studying by their students. She is also an 'approved resource' for the Isaac Newton Institute for Mathematical Sciences in the UK. She is also regularly published in the CSIRO Magazine - a national magazine for those interested in science related matters. This is extremely rare for a poet. She has received a grant and had a large body of work vetted by the James Cook University in Queensland. She has a book of her poems published, and many more attributes. i understood by adding this and working on her site, the potential 'deletion' would be removed as I had also logged an objection while editing and improving the content. Berrell is becoming one of Australia's most notable poets. The references on the site all attest to the notability Sarah Thinking 26 (talk) 00:57, 30 January 2015 (UTC)Sarah Thinking 26Sarah Thinking 26 (talk) 00:57, 30 January 2015 (UTC) Sarah thinking26 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah Thinking 26 (talk • contribs)  — Sarah Thinking 26 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Hello, I agree that Berrell is a very notable poet. She also writes articles and biographies. Her poetry inspired by the art of Sharon Davson is considered a world firstcollaboration by the South Australian Libraries Board. To be in high school text books in three countries in rare for any poet, especially living ones. Roman.abbassi (talk) 01:26, 30 January 2015 (UTC)Roman.abbassiRoman.abbassi (talk) 01:26, 30 January 2015 (UTC) — Roman.abbassi (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * striking out sockpuppet, see Sockpuppet_investigations/Janine_Thompson. LibStar (talk) 00:03, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent)|lambast 02:11, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent)|lambast 02:11, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - inclusion in a Macmillan textbook is probably a decent indicator of notability. as is winning a prize that was covered by USA Today.  Combined with the various other established publishers that have published per poems and I'd say she is notable.  Unfortunately, there isn't a huge amount of biographical material available to support an article. This interview and this bio should be enough, though. (Neither establishes notability, but both should be sufficiently reliable to fill in the details of her bio after notability is established.) --ThaddeusB (talk) 16:02, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
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 * According to the article you linked she didn't win, but was one of the finalists. Bjelleklang -  talk 22:20, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I love her poetry. We studied it at school; so I would say she is notable. She actually got me interested in poetry and I liked that fact she wrote it about art as well. I didn't know poets did that, and she does it with science also. You actually learn 'science stuff' when you read her verse. I'd like to see more about her up. Tim Fredricks 53 (talk) 04:12, 31 January 2015 (UTC)Tim Fredricks 53Tim Fredricks 53 (talk) 04:12, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I forgot to say before, my sister has abut 20 Scientriffic magazines with poems by Celia Berrell in them. My sister is into science and reads me the poems. Great stuff. Tim Fredricks 53 (talk) 04:15, 31 January 2015 (UTC)Tim Fredicks 53Tim Fredricks 53 (talk) 04:15, 31 January 2015 (UTC) — Tim Fredricks 53 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * striking out sockpuppet, see Sockpuppet_investigations/Janine_Thompson. LibStar (talk) 00:03, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * your sister reading the poetry is completely irrelevant to establishing notability. LibStar (talk) 13:31, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I also believe Celia Berrell is a notable poet. She has a very broad audience from school children in Australia, Canada and Ireland through their English textbooks and the CSIRO Scientriffic magazine, as well as being endorsed higher education institutions in Australia and elsewhere. Then there is the web audience, which just keeps growing because her work is educative and enjoyable. I've learned a lot from her poems, so I am happy to keep adding to her site as I find more references. Joan Silver (talk) 09:27, 31 January 2015 (UTC)Joan SilverJoan Silver (talk) 09:27, 31 January 2015 (UTC) — Joan Silver (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * striking out sockpuppet, see Sockpuppet_investigations/Janine_Thompson. LibStar (talk) 00:03, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I have added several references to the Celia Berrell page which I feel will be of interest to readers and users of Wikipedia, as well as support her work as a valued poet and notable with educators and the public. Thank you. Joan Silver (talk) 11:50, 31 January 2015 (UTC)Joan SilverJoan Silver (talk) 11:50, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * comment there is now a sock puppetry investigation for all the single purpose editors who have swarmed this AfD. Sockpuppet investigations/Janine Thompson. LibStar (talk) 13:27, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, all. I am the original author of the article. I've rolled the active version back to what I believe to be the the last version that was properly verifiable (April 2013). This version was approved for publishing and edited for proper formatting by other Wikipedia contributors and editors. IMAGinES (talk) 00:20, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * delete does not meet WP:AUTHOR. no major awards and the coverage is not in depth. The swarming of several sock puppets is a clear indication of conflict of interest here. LibStar (talk) 08:40, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * delete Is not notable. Page has been heavily edited by socks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoneWilde (talk • contribs) 07:28, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
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