Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cem Özüduru


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Styyx has clearly spent time researching this topic, and I would like to begin by thanking him for this work. Unfortunately, other participants within this discussion were not convinced that the sources provided were sufficient to confer notability onto this subject. Because of this, the general agreement appears to be in favor of deleting this article. Mz7 (talk) 03:22, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Cem Özüduru

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I don't read Turkish, but I couldn't find anything to establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. There was some coverage of his book, but the ref given seems to be the only one that would meet criteria to count towards notability. Boleyn (talk) 15:31, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

I found a source of NTV written about his comic Zombistan being translated into French after its success in USA. The article is from 2011, but NTV is well known and a reliable source for Turkish news. I think we can Keep this. ~Styyx  (talk)  12:00, 19 July 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete I can’t find coverage in any RIS to support this. Mccapra (talk) 16:28, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I found one more source about him: https://www.filmloverss.com/39-istanbul-film-festivalinin-cem-ozuduru-imzali-afisi-yayinlandi/ the article includes some information about him. Will look more into it tomorrow. ~Styyx   (talk)  22:08, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment It seems there's a Cem Özüduru who has written graphic novels and a couple of books c. 2009-2015 or so. And there's a Cem Özüduru listed on IMDB credited with a few film and TV series directs and writes, from about 2016 onwards. Whether they are the same Cem Özüduru, I don't know; I've tried to do some digging, but can't conclusively prove it either way. If they are the same person, this article sure is badly out of date! If they aren't, we need to be careful not to confuse the two. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:02, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment No I dont think they are the same. In sources about his comics, none of them say that he is also a director. Not sure though, might need more investigating. Turns out it is actually the same person  ~Styyx   (talk)  12:04, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I have expanded the article to include more of his comics and the movies he has written and directed. If you have already voted I ask you to check the article again. ~Styyx   (talk)  14:24, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Good work finding these sources! I’ve struck my delete vote. I’m not sure there’s enough here by way of sourcing so I’m not recording a new !vote. Mccapra (talk) 20:32, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 19:21, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: I actually looked at the new sources posted here. The first's a namedrop.  The second is a casual mention (the article being about someone else).  The third is a press release, most of it quoted in the subject's own words.  None would satisfy the GNG as to the notability of the subject.   Ravenswing      17:06, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't really know what you are talking about. is about his comic getting translated into French,  is an interview with him about the background of the comic and  is an article by Istanbul Foundation for Culture and Arts about his poster being released. So all of the articles are about him or his works, no "casual" mentions or articles being about someone else.  ~Styyx   Hi! ^-^  11:38, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment So I did a little bit of research and looked at the sources that Styyx has provided. The truth is that there is very little independent coverage of him. Aside from the subject's notability, the notability of his works must also be taken into consideration. It's important to remember that having one or two works translated into a foreign language doesn't necessarily grant you notability. There are thousands, if not millions, of such artists out there, but only those that become prominent in their native country or around the world meet the criteria for a standalone article.  Keivan.f  Talk 06:15, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:17, 3 August 2020 (UTC)


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