Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Center for Pastor Theologians


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  21:24, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Center for Pastor Theologians

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Fails WP:NORG. Cannot find any SIGCOV - all the hits I see on Google are generated by the subject. The text states that the organization has a three-person staff. Rogermx (talk) 23:49, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep, see this book review:, this journal article: , this book review: , this book: , this book: , and this magazine article: .--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 03:55, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * I am afraid that these sources are about their books, not the center itself. I don't see anything other than passing mention to the center itself in any of these references.  However, I appreciate your research on this. Rogermx (talk) 20:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The magazine article is in-depth coverage from a third party source. It is not about advertising their books, either. As for the journal article, it goes over their last conference in some detail. It is also a third party journal. Another source that I did not mention before, is this one from tiu.edu, it goes into the history of the center's operation in some detail.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 00:41, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Although it has been toned down considerably, it still comes off as WP:PROMO due to the multiple WP:COI editors. While that in itself is not a reason for deletion, I do agree that the stringent requirements of WP:NORG have not been met. Jmertel23 (talk) 23:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:39, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete based on the reasoning of Jmertel23. The promotionalism is undesirable but, even were it written in a strictly NPOV way, it wouldn't really seem to pass the basic requirements of WP:NORG. Wolfson5 (talk) 07:45, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - dubious of merits -- This seems to be a learned society with a journal, and holding an annual conference, but we have no article on the journal and no indication of how many attend the conference. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:54, 10 January 2020 (UTC)


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