Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centr


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 05:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Centr

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Delete, I'm not finding sources to back up that this band passes GNG. This is a Russian band so there may be sources in that language however I do not speak it. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:03, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO and lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. STATic message me!   18:01, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. Very famous group. MTV Russia Music Award for Best Hip-Hop Project in 2008. I will add a couple of Russian-language references to the article now, but for English speakers, here's a proof, they are in the MTV Russia Music Award for Best Hip-Hop Project template in the Russian Wikipedia. --Moscow Connection (talk) 09:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. Here's a lengthy article, published in December 2009 in the newspaper Moskovskiy Komsomolets. The second sentence says "Since their first album "Качели", released in 2007, and until now CENTR is the most popular rap group of our country." The article is called "Rap Tragedy of the Year", referring to the breakup of the group in the summer of 2009. --Moscow Connection (talk) 10:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I propose to cut the article to a reasonable length, leaving just a few sentences in good English, and then keep it. Cause it is badly translated and would require a long time to correct and to source properly. But the article should stay cause CENTR is one of Russia's most renowned hip hop groups of all time and Wikipedia will profit if the article is kept. The group passes WP:GNG (very famous, lots of coverage over the years) and WP:MUSIC (MTV Russia Music Award). --Moscow Connection (talk) 14:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Good enough for me. I appreciate that you found the sources in the language. Thank you. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:00, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:57, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:57, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 01:22, 24 March 2014 (UTC)




 * Keep - good enough for me too. Nice work Moscow Connection! Stalwart 111  04:54, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * But I didn't do anything. I just sourced several sentences, proved notability and was hoping the author improves/rewrites it. I'm not sure what I can do. Because the article is largely unsourced and it would take forever to source it. Because I proposed to cut it down, but I think I don't really want to delete most of it. It looks like the article was translated from the Russian Wikipedia. The Russian article is also largely unsourced, but it looks like some people look after it. So all/most of the facts are probably correct... --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:08, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I just mean that the sources you added (in my view) were enough for the subject to meet the threshold of notability. The article still needs more work (and sources) but its enough to move on from this AFD (I think, and so does the nom from the looks of it). Stalwart 111  03:22, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
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