Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Central Arkansas Christian Schools


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Icewedge (talk) 02:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Central Arkansas Christian Schools

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Fails WP:NOTE as it lacks significant coverage in sources independent of the subject. Was prodded but prod removed with "Try an AfD". Only brief mentions in 4 news sources, no significant discussion. Only mention in books are one-line mentions in lists. Zero hits in scholarly sources. Cirt (talk) 16:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —TerriersFan (talk) 18:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - this is not a school but a group of three schools, including a high school, and we keep such groups both for their own merit and as a repository for information on the component schools. Sufficient sources are available to allow further expansion. TerriersFan (talk) 19:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "Sufficient sources are available to allow further expansion." Please back up this statement. Cirt (talk) 19:24, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - Central Arkansas was the first private school in Arkansas to have a wrestling program, in the inaugural 2008 season and claimed the first Arkansas state title in their classification . The precedent for keeping all high school articles is one I debate myself, but I do believe a secondary school article like this one has the potential for meeting at least a minimal standard of WP:NOTE and WP:VER, whereas deletion of such articles completely removes all visible trace of the page --Jh12 (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Claiming that the wrestling establishes notability is highly questionable, especially as the only sources are a brief mention in the biography of one of the Arkansas Wrestling Board's directors on the association's website and a blog post on a high school wrestling website - this is clearly not "significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources" needed to meet WP:ORG (blogs aren't even considered reliable sources). Nick-D (talk) 07:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The reference provided was merely a guide, but I do not consider the biography of an Arkansas Wrestling Board Director on the Arkansas Wrestling Association's website to be dismissed, especially since this is a clear statement of fact and is "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice" by The Christian Chronicle, an independent publication of the Churches of Christ. This is information is likely to be true and can be cross-referenced. --Jh12 (talk) 20:41, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * As a follow-up, my point was really to demonstrate the ready likelihood of finding sources to establish notability. In fact, I now believe that Central Arkansas Christian is a sports powerhouse. The school is listed 26 times on the Official 2008-2009 Arkansas High School Sports Record Book. and has a history of sports success. The school has had highly-ranked students , Major League Baseball pitchers , and I have reason to believe based on this page  that the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette has more information. Also note that sources like the The North Little Rock Times are excellent sources for information about school facilities and other developments  --Jh12 (talk) 21:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * If needed, I can provide additional cross-references for the Buchanan visit from the Associated Press, the recruiting of Joe Adams via USAToday/MSNBC, and A. J. Burnett's attendance via The Miami Herald/CNNSI. --Jh12 (talk) 22:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I have now confirmed the article posted to hswrestling.net was an article published by the weekly business journal Arkansas Business . --Jh12 (talk) 15:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep as something akin to a school district. -- Eastmain (talk) 16:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The only reason I did not comment the first round was I thought it was obvious that this would be kept. We keep articles on high schools, and that is included as part of the article. We certainly keep articles on school districts or the equivalent. They're the referred way of handling those schools, such as the elementary schools, that do not get articles of their own. DGG (talk) 18:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I'd like to see the sources described in this discussion added to the article, but they establish the notability for the schools. Alansohn (talk) 21:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Withdraw nomination. - Looks like this should be a Keep. Good research done by . Cirt (talk) 22:32, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


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