Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centre Place (Film)


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The result was   delete. SarahStierch (talk) 19:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Centre Place (Film)

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I initially came across this via PROD and tried to save it, but unfortunately there just aren't many reliable sources out there for this film. The PROD was removed by the original editor without comment, which I suspect is someone editing on behalf of the film's distributor, Titan View. If anyone can find more RS to show that this film is notable I'm open for discussion, but this just doesn't seem to pass notability guidelines at this point in time and considering that it's been out for a year already, I doubt it ever will. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:19, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete for now per TOO SOON. While it appears this film had festival screenings in 2010, it currently lacks the depth of coverage to meet WP:NF. Allow back only after requisite coverage comes forward (if ever).  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 00:59, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete: As per above. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep since the above comments I have provided independent verifable references - the film satisfies criteria 2 of WP:Film in that it was screened at several international film festivals. Dan arndt (talk) 09:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Well... the issue is that not all international film festivals are really notable and just showing at film festivals isn't enough. You have to have coverage of this film being shown and it has to be in reliable sources. Of the sources you've added, here's a rundown:


 * 1) This is a primary link about the composer. It can't count towards notability and notability isn't inherited by notable persons having worked with the film.
 * 2) This is a Rovi guide. It's not really usable as a reliable source since it's primarily just a rundown of the film plot. I used to think it was usable, but have since realized it wasn't.
 * 3) Film Threat is usable, but I think this was one I added.
 * 4) This is just a listing from the center that showed the film. Airing somewhere isn't really notable in and of itself. Several films show in locations, some of which are quite notable, but simply airing somewhere isn't enough.
 * 5) This is a press release of the showing. It's not usable since it's just a brief mention in a primary source, but even so it still doesn't show notability because just being in circulation doesn't give notability.
 * 6) This looks to be a routine notification of a film being shown. Same reasons for non-notability extending apply here. Even if it was nominated for an award, getting nominated isn't enough to show notability. There's also the issue that most awards aren't notable enough to merit a keep on that basis alone and this looks to be your routine non-notable film festival. Most awards and film festivals aren't notable enough to keep a film on that basis alone. I really don't even think being at one of the most notable film festivals (Cannes, for example) is enough to keep an article.
 * 7) This is just a brief mention about it being nominated along with several other films- this isn't enough to give notability and would be considered a WP:TRIVIAL source at best.
 * 8) This is a very brief mention of the film along with several other films in relation to a film festival. The film isn't actually the focus of the news article and at most, this would be another trivial source.


 * Ultimately none of the sources are enough to keep the article. On a side note, I'm not sure where you are seeing in WP:NFILM where being in circulation in any format (film festival, wide release, etc) is enough to show notability. I don't mean to sound rude, but I don't see that in the notability guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   10:33, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
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