Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centurion (novel) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Cirt (talk) 00:28, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Centurion (novel)
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Unremarkable novel. Fails WP:BK. Newspaper "reviews" listed are nothing more than short plot summaries. Has a bestseller listing from the Sunday Times, but please note that being a bestseller is not part of WP:BK or WP:N. Other "bestseller" link doesn't actually include this novel. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 17:10, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - This article was previously deleted following an AFD which I initiated. It was restored as the result of a DRV (of which I was not notified) and the deletion overturned as "no consensus". Delicious carbuncle (talk) 17:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoa up, Delicious! That prior AfD was for a totally different book. This article was moved from Centurion (Scarrow novel) after the other one was AfDed. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  17:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The original AFD is Articles for deletion/Centurion (Scarrow novel) (DRV here). Thanks for pointing that out, Orangemike. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've made the infobox link to the correct AFDs now. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep On the contrary, a bestseller from a major newspaper is proof of significance. It doesn' tgetthere without sufficient comment and discussion to meet our notability standards. DGG (talk) 01:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think bestseller status is based on sales, not comment or discussion. Just sayin'. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 03:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  16:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I believe that this book just barely passes WP:BK, there are multiple sources and some (Yorkshire evening post) provide critical commentary. Here is an offline reliable source where I can just see the abstract:
 * Page, Benedicte. "NEW TITLES: DECEMBER." Bookseller (07 Sep. 2007): 28-29. Abstract: The article reviews several books including "Centurion," by Simon Scarrow,......  --Captain-tucker (talk) 20:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Yorkshire Evening Post "review" is literally three paragraphs long. Out of this only the final two sentences could be construed as review, the rest is just plot summary. The other article you reference is likely just a listing of newly released books. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 18:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep as this is not long-listed fiction. Ottre 08:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, what does that mean? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 18:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


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