Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Century City Mall


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. General consensus to keep. (non-admin closure) sst ✈  03:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Century City Mall

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Highly promotional article for non-notable shopping mall, full of non-notable details that only serve as advertising for its amenities. The abs/cnn item is essentially a press release  DGG ( talk ) 05:56, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 09:34, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 09:34, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 09:34, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep or, failing that, Redirect / merge with Century City, Makati. There seem to be quite a few independent sources talking about the complex eg: this, this, this and this, and modern retail premises (eg: Trafford Centre, Westfield Stratford City, MetroCentre (shopping centre), Bluewater (shopping centre), Lakeside Shopping Centre, St. David's (Cardiff) ( yes I know WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS but hear me out ) tend to be big-business affairs that are strongly promoted by city or regional councils as significant for employment and regeneration prospects, which gets sustained news coverage. I would expect G11 worthy article to say something more like "The Century City Mall is a fresh new experience in shopping, guaranteed to be revolutionary in the world of retail. It has received numerous accolades around the globe." ... but it doesn't. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:49, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment while not a shopping mall of the three major Philippine shopping mall brands (SM, Ayala, Robinsons) I believe this is less promotional than some of the malls of the aforementioned brand (many of them are plagued with violations against WP:NOTDIRECTORY, with list of anchors and shops, usually unsourced.) The mall itself isn't an "amenity" of a residential tower but as a stand-alone mall. The only "details" that would doubly serve as advertisement is the fact that the mall hosts "local and international shops". The commons shopper won't care about the construction details of the mall, the architecture behind the mall- such as the type of glass used. Mentioning that such decisions in the architecture of the mall is made to minimize heat to provide comfort to shoppers is avoidable (notice I changed that to "people inside the mall" which includes staff and employees and removed some peacock words like the mall being a "lifestyle center")Hariboneagle927 (talk) 17:52, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 18:07, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment A 1promotional article doesn't have to be G-11 worthy to be deleted here. The G11 standard is undoubted advertising; thestandard here is usitability for an encyclopedia, and NOT ADVOCACY.  Borderline notability combined with substantial promotionalism is a good reason for deletion.  DGG ( talk ) 18:01, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep I wasn't sure about this when I started reading (how do you get customers into 100 shops with 527 parking spaces; and is that 180,000 sq ft GLA total, or is it that each of the five floors has 180,000 sq ft?) until I noticed the point about the possibility of redirecting to an article that already has an entire section devoted to the topic.  Further checking reveals that while the nominator questions ABS-CBN News for the quality of their writing based on their source selection, our article on ABS-CBN News and Current Affairs reports that they "topped the list among Philippines news and broadcast organizations, garnering 68% of the public trust."  Claiming that the article contains "non-notable" details is an inappropriate use of a term that has a specialized meaning in an AfD context.  There is nothing wrong with non-notable details in an article, in fact, an article without non-notable details would be an oddity.  Unscintillating (talk) 02:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


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