Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Certain Chapters (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:41, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Certain Chapters
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Non notable short film, appears to fail WP:NFILM as just appearing at festivals is not enough for notability requirements.

Relisting in the hopes that this time there will be more input into the discussion so that it does not end in no consensus again, but is either deleted or proven that the film is notable and finally have the notability tag removed. Donald D23  talk to me  04:39, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Singapore.  Donald D23   talk to me  04:39, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Ref bombed out the wazoo, most are only trivial mentions. I don't see any further references we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 04:46, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Various non-SME blogs and YouTube channels are not WP:RS; routine announcements (e.g., this, general coverage of the festival and quotes, but not WP:SIGCOV for the film specifically) and trivial mentions about nominations/shortlists for minor festivals are not WP:SIGCOV. WP:GNG and WP:NFILM criteria 1 is therefore failed, the awards are nowhere near the requirement set out by WP:NFILM criteria 2: a major award. Moreover, WP:NFILM inclusionary criteria 2 is not met. It states that The film features significant involvement (i.e., one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of their career. An article on the film should be created only if there is enough information on it that it would clutter up the biography page of that person if it was mentioned there. The director in question, Abbas Akbar, has a notability tag, making it debatably a notable person, moreover, the second part states that An article on the film should be created only if there is enough information on it that it would clutter up the biography page of that person if it was mentioned there- this is a refbombed, questionably sourced article that I see no compelling size split requirements.  VickKiang  (talk)  00:22, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per VickKiang. I could not find any coverage of the film on NewspaperSG. Abbas Akbar could probably be redirected to Chennai 2 Singapore. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 07:53, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. There's just not enough coverage of the short. It's mentioned in passing in relation to the director, but by large it's not received any coverage. The best I could find was this review by SINdie. I can see where the site has been used as a RS by academic and scholarly source like this and this, but this is still only a single source and not enough to establish notability. Notability isn't inherited by the director or anyone else in the film being notable either.
 * To be honest, this is extremely common for short films and debut works as a whole. Sometimes the director gets well known enough to where their earlier stuff gains coverage, but by large the early stuff tends to be just mentioned in passing in regards to the newer works. It being a short doesn't help a lot since those are often overlooked as a whole, even when it involves highly notable people at the time of filming and release. This title is also too general to be a good redirect target, so I wouldn't recommend a redirect. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  19:02, 25 November 2022 (UTC)


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