Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chad Young


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The result was merge to Tour of the Gila. almost saves the article, providing sources, but does not overcome the 1E argument. WP is not a memorial, true, and death does not automatically make one notable. A merge was offered but at the time there was little to merge; after Herostratus's contribution, however, there is. Drmies (talk) 17:46, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Chad Young

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I have no wish to denigrate this young man's memory or to cause upset to his family and friends, but riders at CT level are not generally considered to meet notability guidelines. There was no apparent interest in considering his nascent career worthy of an article while he was alive, and his tragic death has not been considered widely newsworthy beyond the limited scope of cycling media. A desperately sad situation, but Wikipedia articles should not be created as memorials. Kevin McE (talk) 11:16, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep He may not be notable for what he did riding, but the event of his death is notable, as this is a major event in cycling, and was all over the news. --Seacactus 13 (talk) 18:48, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep The article could be expanded with information found in the Spanish Wikipedia. Furthermore, his death has been receiving coverage as it has become a major event in the cycling area as says. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:02, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable by its death. Fortunately I had the occasion to take him in photo not very far from my house. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 20:23, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Death does not establish notability. No third-party coverage beyond his death (several search results turned up an NFL player of the same name), and in all probability the way that he died and the event itself is why it's in the news as much as it is. Sports-related fatalities are going to make headlines no matter who is involved, before they're ultimately forgotten. sixty nine   • speak up •  21:43, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Unsure Just wanted to add that his death was mentioned in multiple articles about riders safety like news piece about UCI asking Giro d'Italia organizers to remove dangerous new classification for fastest descender. He will come up in future mentions along Wouter Weylandt and Antoine Demoitié. --Papuass (talk) 18:49, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Notable only for his death = WP:ONEEVENT. I'd say merge to Tour of the Gila, but there is nothing to merge - his death should be mentioned in the event, sure, but as for himself, there is nothing to say except that he suffered an accident during the race. Sad, but doesn't make him encyclopedic. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:03, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Plenty of people die every day, especially on the roads. This is a WP:ONEEVENT article. Edwardx (talk) 19:39, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Being notable only for his death = merge into the relevant article (per Piotrus). Per Papuass, the mentioned articles could be added in that article as well. A clear case of WP:ONEEVENT where having a separate article does not help the reader - per this there's no page that really links to this one anyway except some arbitrary lists or the rider's team article. 69.165.196.103 (talk) 20:25, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 12:30, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. What WP:GNG wants is "multiple" instances of "in depth" coverage (and IMO helps a lot if it is a "notable" source rather than a local paper). Well here is the Denver Post (big notable paper) with a fairly in-depth biography, several paragraphs describing where he went to school and so forth. As to other mentions, Here is Australia, passing mention though. The wire services picked it up, and the Arizona Republic and the the Los Angeles Times and NBC sports picked it up. Notable venues, but passing mention of him, only described in relation to the crash. Possibly article should be renamed to Death of Chad Young maybe. It's true that the Spanish Wikipedia has a longer article, but not really better refs than the one I described here. My take is:
 * You've got somewhat in-depth coverage in the Denver Post, a notable paper.
 * And mentions, at least describing in him, in the LA Times and other notable papers.
 * And of course he is described or at least mentioned at cycling sites worldwide, like Spain, and Australia we saw earlier. Here is slightly in-depth coverage, couple paragraphs, although in a cycling-specific venue not notable in the wider world. here's his page at Pro Cycling Stats, with his stats and vital statistics.
 * It's enough, IMO, when you put it all together, for him to squeak by WP:GNG. Herostratus (talk) 17:05, 9 May 2017 (UTC)


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