Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chandu (1958 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Article clearly needs work, but that is not the realm of AfD. A possible redirect can be further discussed on the article's talk if so desired, but given the !voting pattern here, there's not much use in keeping this AfD open any longer. Randykitty (talk) 15:30, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Note to people confused by the edit history. Randykitty and I were apparently working on this at the same time, and I ended up accidentally re-closing it after he had already done so.  I've backed out my close to let his stand.  -- RoySmith (talk) 16:35, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Chandu (1958 film)

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No notability and poorly referenced (no reliable sources). Tamra vidhir (talk!) 10:39, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)




 * Comment: A brand new stub article on an early Bengali film sent to AFD hours after creation. Pre-1990s Indian films are difficult to sources, yes... but that difficulty does not equate to non-notability. Is there a special reason to toss improvable Indian film stubs? We do have alternatives that serve the project.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 20:17, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Of the film's stars, Mehmood Ali is a multi award-winner, and Om Prakash himself received accolades from his industry, as has Pran and Shashikala   Is an assertion being put forward that a 1958 film, part of the career of many Indian notables, has not received any sort of attention... even if in Hindi language sources? I remain quizzical. I remind the nominator of WP:NF.   Schmidt,  Michael Q. 20:50, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - quiet notable. It seems nominator is nominating all articles for deletion created by this user without any research. I fully agree with comments of . Jethwarp (talk) 02:23, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Bollywood films of 1958. I welcome the creation of an article about this film with a couple of reputable references, but currently there is nothing in my researches suggesting the film is notable. The whole content of the article (which only consists of technical data) is already included in the list, so there is anything worthy of merging. Cavarrone 07:24, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 12:40, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 14:51, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - Absolutely agree with here - Films before 1990s are alot harder to source so leeway is usually given on these. – Davey 2010  •  (talk)  15:13, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Bollywood films of 1958 not the purpose of WP to generate notability for this film. Possible usable sources in other languages so the first step would be to start articles in those languages, not the english WP--Mevagiss (talk) 20:35, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Really? Non-English topics do not belong in the english Wikipedia? We do not "generate notability"... its a presumption of existing notability (in any langauge) that builds articles, even on non-English topics. Just sayin'  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 01:56, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Except that notability is demonstrated not presumed - to make a WP article. This film seems not to meet this though. My point, and what puzzles me, is that the author evidently understands the content the film and its probable publicity in relevant language (Bengali?), but chooses to make an English article with no appropriate sources.--Mevagiss (talk) 12:28, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, new editors are not perfect, but his not including them does not make them non-existent. I am unconvinced that a project of multi-award-winners Mehmood Ali, Om Prakash , Pran , and Shashikala was somehow and inexplicably ignored by Indian media 56 years ago.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 15:41, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - I do not think a 1958 film by Mehmood should have brought to AFD. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect as previously suggested. If more information can be found in the future to greatly improve the article that grant other films of this era their own entries. Yahudi is an example of a fantastic job done for a movie on List of Bollywood films of 1958. I do not automatically dismiss the idea that the movie is notable under general Wikipedia standards, however the lack of sources that state notability beyond "it exists" is what sways me here. For something to be notable it needs to be demonstrated as such. Without a concrete area to point to within sources or substantive details to fall back on this should remain on the pre-existing "list article". ♪ Tstorm(talk) 11:36, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Wanted to add that this is a potential candidate for a move to AfC for partial sandbox hibernation until improvement or for an involved party to take it to userspace. The existing info wouldn't be 100% lost, then. ♪ Tstorm(talk) 11:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.