Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chapel Records


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The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:08, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Chapel Records

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Record label without references. Can't find any good on-line references. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:50, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete appears to fail GNG. Sarah (talk) 16:59, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep. This record label has existed at least since the early 1950s (going back so far as to release 78rpm discs), and has hundreds of releases.  Several notable artists have appeared on this label over the years.  Agreed the article needs a lot of help.  The Both Sides Now site should be used as a reference, and not merely as an external link.  I'll make this a personal priority to improve this article.   78.26  (talk) 01:46, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * As long as the references improve, it's acceptable to keep. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. This Adventist label goes back to 1955, and has sources under the later name "Chapel Music" --, . -- 202.124.75.88 (talk) 11:08, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 1 is a mention and essentially trivial. 2 isn't much better. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The first listing there looks good; the second I'm not sold on. Carrite (talk) 17:32, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment The label goes back to at least 1953 as Chapel Records. 1955 is when ownership was acquired by Pacific Press.  Previously the label was called Cathedral Records, and it's initial name was Sabbath Music.  Unfortunately, I have no way to prove this last point except my own original research.   78.26  (talk) 19:27, 22 May 2012 (UTC) OK, further research indicates the label goes back to 1948, found source for Sabbath Music, and Cathedral was not predecessor, but was issued simultaneously.  I never knew that!   78.26  (talk) 14:53, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure it matters how far back in time it goes, although at some point it would be notable for being the first record label ever. What matters is its references. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The point is the references are revealing more/correct information.   78.26  (talk) 16:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 22 May 2012 (UTC)




 * Comment - Really close to a copyvio of a terse listing at Discogs.com. Carrite (talk) 17:25, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment to comment Discogs.com probably copied the information from Wikipedia. Like Wikipedia, anyone can edit Discogs.com, so I don't consider it a reliable source.   78.26  (talk) 19:22, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Multiple decades of existence and close association with the 7th Day Adventist movement makes this a pretty important label to keep, in my estimation, obvious shortcomings of the piece being obvious. "Chapel Records Presents Choral Arts Society of Japan" is from a 1966 publication, Pacific Union Recorder, documenting part of the length of the label's tenure and its proximity to the Adventist movement. Carrite (talk) 17:32, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * This PRESS RELEASE doesn't go towards notability here but should definitely be mined for the article, indicating the May 1955 General Conference of the Adventist Church gave Chapel Music to Pacific Press Publishing Association and that some 400 individuals and artists have been put out by the label over the years. Carrite (talk) 17:37, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Current name seems to be Chapel Music, I note, so in the event this closes a Keep a name change may be in order. Carrite (talk) 17:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep due to overhaul by 78.26. I feel the information is now verifiable and notability demonstrated. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 23:33, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
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