Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charity Lawson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. While on a pure nose count this might fall into "no consensus", two keep arguments were "other stuff exists", which is not a policy-based rationale to retain an article. The others did present some reference material, but most arguments agree that it's not sufficient for an article at this time. This is of course a case where future events may change that and permit an article down the road. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Charity Lawson

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Does not appear to meet WP:GNG or any occupation based notability criteria. Hitro talk 08:12, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Television. Hitro talk 08:12, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * All other Bachelors/Bachelorettes from the last 10 years have Wikipedia pages. There's multiple secondary sources, the only primary source is her birthday. Gthesecond (talk) 08:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. This is not a valid argument for inclusion. Hitro talk 06:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:54, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:GNG. As Gthesecond mentioned above, Bachelor/ette leads generally meet notability requirements. Novemberjazz 22:32, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It is necessary to demonstrate notability per WP:GNG. "Bachelor/ette leads meet notability requirements" is not a policy-based argument. Hitro</b><b style="color:#FF00FF; font-family:courier; font-size:small"> talk</b> 07:00, 20 March 2023 (UTC)


 * As she is going to become the next bachelorette and the other bachelorettes in the past has one she should have a Wikipedia page --Acroospulle16 (talk) 14:15, 17 March 2023 (UTC)acroospulle


 * See WP:CRYSTALBALL as well as WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Policy-based inclusion rationales are essential at AfDs. <b style="color:Green; font-family:Times New Roman">Hitro</b><b style="color:#FF00FF; font-family:courier; font-size:small"> talk</b> 07:02, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero  Parlez Moi 13:46, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - zero notability outside the reality show. And as we have seen recently in a spate of AfD's for Survivor show winners, just being on or even winning one of these reality shows is not grounds in and of itself to be considered notable. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:57, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, I don't find the "every other Bachelor(ette) lead has their own page" reasoning compelling considering the decline in popularity of the series generally would explain why Lawson would not have her own. Past leads may have received significant coverage that warranted an article, but this one doesn't look like she has. <b style="color: #AB2B2B;">{ [ ( jjj</b> <b style="color: #000000;">1238 ) ] }</b> 00:05, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Draftify, I assume a lot of coverage will come when the new season of The Bachelorette starts in June. And she is the main lead of the next series, so this is not a bit role. Natg 19 (talk) 17:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep This People article talks a bit about her history/life and this in Cosmo . Coverage in Variety  She's not New York Times material, but there is some coverage. Did either side asking for it to be kept or deleted even look? Oaktree b (talk) 22:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets WP:GNG, per Oaktree b. Would be reasonable to argue that this is WP:TOOSOON, since she will receive additional (and hopefully better) coverage when her season airs, but I think a draft is not likely to be helpful (as this is likely a popular search term, so keeping the page title in mainspace is important). Looks like her season currently exists as a redirect, so I would have no problem with a redirect to The Bachelorette (American season 19)... but that could only be a temporary solution until the season article is live. Suriname0 (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: Fails GNG and BIO, BLP1E. Sources and BEFORE showed promo, nothing that meets IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. BLPs need clearly IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per V, BLP and BIO.  // Timothy :: talk  00:41, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete As per Onel5969. MrsSnoozyTurtle 03:27, 7 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.