Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charla nash


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Travis (chimpanzee). (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 04:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Charla nash

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Contested prod. While this person received some media coverage when the attack happened and is receiving some now due to the appearance on Oprah, they do not meet notability guidelines specifically because they are known only for this one event. RadioFan (talk) 22:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC) — 121.72.197.181 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete Clear BLP1E violation. The attack was not particularly notable either.  Triplestop  x3  22:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * redirect keep victim of attack is candidate for face transplant and may be appropriate for linking to overall chimp attack, possibly to facial transplant (before and after photos) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.197.181 (talk) 17:51, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete BLP0E. DMacks (talk) 22:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC) Change to redirect since the event now seems notable enough to get mentioned in some larger article. DMacks (talk) 16:38, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Tempted to continue the countdown below zero, but seriously: this is nowhere close to being notable. Favonian (talk) 22:33, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * change to Redirect per WWGB's persuasive argument below. Favonian (talk) 13:49, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I think having most of your face pulled off by a friend's pet is particularly notable - mostly pets just sit on your lap, swim around a tank, lick your hand, shag your leg etc. But it was just one event.  pablo hablo. 22:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per triplestop.Tim1357 (talk) 22:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as pablo says, this is "notable" (as these things go), but WP:BLP1E. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 23:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC) Redirect as per Pablo --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me ,  My Contribs ) 16:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - This barely even meets Wp:BLP1E. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  23:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect - Seeing as "Charla Nash" redirects to Travis (chimpanzee) (as pointed out by WWGB below), I can't see why this one shouldn't redirect there as well. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  13:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong delete - looks like snow, folks. Redirect per Pablomismo's excellent suggestion -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  00:40, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - BLP1E, except, that event isn't particularly notable either... Having something bad happen to you (in this case, have face ripped off by chimp), then being on Oprah for it is not grounds for notability.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 00:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per WP:BLP1E. Joe Chill (talk) 01:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Redirect to Travis (chimpanzee) or keep. There are continuing references about the attack:   and, fwiw, the Oprah interview now has international coverage itself:  &c -- I wonder if it will be internationally notable. I'm not suggesting that every subject Oprah interviews is notable--but  when the particular interview itself is covered by multiple international sources....   DGG ( talk ) 03:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a likely redirect target for the chimpanzee, and she definitely counts as a BLP1E case. Nyttend (talk) 04:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you mean, "not a likely redirect target"? At 1,800 people on one day the redir seems pretty plausible to me. --78.34.223.227 (talk) 07:07, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Travis (chimpanzee) where the 'one event' in question is already covered.  pablo hablo. 09:44, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn and redirect (with both correct and the current incorrect capitalization I suppose) to Travis (chimpanzee).--RadioFan (talk) 01:34, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * redirect to Travis (chimpanzee) while I can see how BLP1E might apply I think this applies in this case: "If the event is significant, and if the individual's role within it is substantial, a separate article for the person may be appropriate. Individuals notable for well-documented events, such as John Hinckley, Jr., fit into this category. The significance of an event or individual should be indicated by how persistent the coverage is in reliable secondary sources." The event is certainly significant and she is certainly a major participant and is likely to be the subject of continued media coverage for some time to come especially now that she can give interviews. This at least warrants a redirect. The smilodon (talk) 01:39, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Obvious from above comments. Redirect is not at all a plausible search term. Shadowjams (talk) 11:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand - what is implausible about "Charla nash" as a search term?  pablo hablo. 12:33, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right. I don't know what I was thinking. Shadowjams (talk) 00:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

--K10wnsta (talk) 21:29, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Redirect - what WWGP pointed out below trumps all. The title is improperly formatted.  But the info in this article should have an exclusive section on the Travis (chimpanzee) page if it doesn't already.--K10wnsta (talk) 11:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: A great deal of the notability comes in the before and after pictures (just a heads up, they're pretty GRAPHIC) - they can be seen under the Wednesday Nov. 11th show at | oprah.com. Seeing as how she's only shown her face on Oprah, I don't know that there would be any images we could get that didn't violate copyright.


 * Delete. The correct title, Charla Nash, is already a redirect to Travis (chimpanzee) which is how it should be. This poor woman is WP:BLP1E and deserves some dignity. WWGB (talk) 05:24, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect. For reasons already stated above by DGG and others.--Epeefleche (talk) 16:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
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