Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles, Prince of Wales's visit to the west of Ireland


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The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 17:34, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Charles, Prince of Wales's visit to the west of Ireland

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WP:TOOSOON to determine enduring historical significance or widespread (national or international) impact of this single two-day visit per WP:EVENT. Would support userfying or moving this article to draft space until the significance/impact of this event can be demonstrated. Ahecht (TALK PAGE ) 21:27, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom; WP:NOTNEWS; no indications this is anything but a news story, even with the Mountbatten connection  —Мандичка YO 😜 23:24, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article Queen Elizabeth II's state visit to the Republic of Ireland exists and does not appear to have been opposed; the reciprocal state visit by the president of Ireland also has an article. If nothing else, there should be an article about all of Charles's visits to Ireland. I don't think this article should be deleted per WP:NOTNEWS. It is not first-hand reporting and the individual involved is notable. What's arguable is whether this is more than a routine event. "Charles, Prince of Wales's visit to the Royal Ascot, 2015" would be routine; I don't think this visit is. If the article is kept, I think "west of Ireland" should be changed to "the Republic of Ireland," and the year should be included. Roches (talk) 01:09, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You have to judge them as two separate events. First, Queen Elizabeth's visit in 2011 was no doubt historic, as it was the first visit by a monarch since Ireland's independence and was 100 years after the last visit by a monarch. Charles' visit just doesn't have that same notability. Additionally, the success of the Queen's visit arguably led to the Sinn Féin leader agreeing to meet her the next year, which was called historic and a "most significant event." It's too early to tell if Charles' visit will have any effect on UK-Irish relations.   —Мандичка YO 😜 04:51, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Charles has visited Ireland on a number of occasions, as have his siblings. These visits have become routine and are no longer notable. The visit by his mother, on the other hand, was historic and highly notable: she is a monarch; he is not. It is not a state visit; it is not an official visit; it is just a visit. Charles's visit is news, but not encyclopaedically notable. — O'Dea  (talk) 08:08, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Considering the visit is only about to take place I am struck by the amount of coverage there has been in advance. The sources demonstrate that it is unusual for a visit to Northern Ireland to be announced that far in advance, never mind to the Republic. The security arrangements and bomb plot have even been covered in The New York Times (before the visit has taken place).  The coverage, even in England, uses words like "historic", not the type of word that tends to be given to a routine visit.  Contrary to the statement by the person above me, the English media also call it an "official" visit.  Other things which make the visit unusual is his visiting the site where his relative was murdered. There is also a first ever meeting with Gerry Adams, a first for Prince Charles but also the first time Adams will have met any member of the British royal family.   --Inother (talk) 09:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Honestly, when is the last time the royals did something and it didn't receive an intense amount of coverage? Everything that happens is technically historic; even if he visits the place of the bombing it seems something of a footnote. Like O'Dea said, it's not his first visit; he's not the head of state or reigning monarch. If this had happened in 1998, before Wikipedia, would we deem it worthy of an article today?  —Мандичка YO 😜 11:40, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Any time Charles goes anywhere new it is "unusual", but "unusual" is not notable enough for a stand-alone article. It is sufficient to dedciate a few sentences to the visit in the article Charles, Prince of Wales. A whole article about one activity of the son of someone important is overkill. — O'Dea  (talk) 19:47, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Keep I think this is quite an historic visit, and it's not just a case of x royal visits y country. It's another step forward in the peace process with Charles meeting senior individuals involved in The Troubles.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 06:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * But Charles is not a head of state, and even if he is meeting with notable individuals, notability of the event is not inherited from the participants. It's WP:TOOSOON to say that this visit will have any impact on the peace process. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK


 * Delete per WP:NOTDIARY. Maduwanwela (talk) 14:56, 20 May 2015 (UTC)]
 * Delete: per TOOSOON, NOTDIARY, you name it. Honestly, the royals go lots of places, and the paparazzi dutifully tags along.  This is no more "historic" a visit than any other.  Nha Trang  Allons! 16:11, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per TOOSOON, NOTDIARY. Seriously, we don't need articles about individual royal visits. Mellowed Fillmore (talk) 16:46, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:51, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:52, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - per TOOSOON and NOTDIARY. Snappy (talk) 16:12, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Once upon a time this would have been a notable event, but visits by British royals to the Republic are now routine.  Coverage is the same sort of routine stuff that the UK press comes up with every time Charles steps into public.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 15:10, 26 May 2015 (UTC).
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