Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Crowie Smith


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. X clamation point  02:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Charles Crowie Smith

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Contested prod, the reason was nn biography. The problem with the article is with sources available, with those present I can't decide if the notability criteria is established so I leave it here for consideration. Thank you. Tone 19:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC) 
 * Delete Given that there are only 2 copies of his autobio in the US, though I would expect some more locally in england, I do not see how his life story is considered notable. There may be more information in the various works about the Salvation Army, but I'm out of my depth in that subject. DGG (talk) 21:01, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as it stands at present, unless better references can be placed. If there are better references, I'd be happy to change my vote.--Artypants (talk) 17:23, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Advice and hopfully - Keep Firstly, thanks to Tone for this discussion in response to my query. I will of course accept the final concensus/decision. As the proposed deletion is mainly based on whether this is a notable autobiography or not, and this is a subjective thing, please would you take the following into account. If it's decided to keep the article I will then add references and inline citations to tidy it up into Wiki standards. 1) The 14 chapter book had 1000 copies printed in 1937. 2) One copy was received by Buckingham palace and remains there. 3) The Telegraph has run articles on Crowie Smith which I've managed to obtain in hard copy of, on April 5th 1971 and March 24th 1979. I could add these as scanned docs to an online resource. 4) I've obtained hard copy poem about him, written by J Clarke Sept 1st 1937. 5) I'm awaiting a photo of him from a family member, which I would upload.

Not all famous people have copious online references about them, which does not help in this case. Thanks for your consideration and comments.Simon777 (talk) 22:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


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