Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Haigh-Wood


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The result was delete. Consensus is that the article does not meet the notability guidelines. Davewild (talk) 07:26, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Charles Haigh-Wood

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Fails WP:GNG. The guy mostly appears in books etc because of being father-in-law to T. S. Eliot. A local historian - Ken Craven - has effectively self-published this family biography but otherwise there is little other than primary sources of the type already used in the article and passing mentions such as this. There are also some passing mentions in art sale catalogues, basically repeating his d.o.b./d.o.d. and a brief description of the artwork. The BBC says even less.

Unless exhibiting at the Royal Academy automatically confers notability, the subject matter does not reach our bar. The article appears to reflect the niche interest of its creator but little interest from others. Sitush (talk) 05:57, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep: There is discussion of Haigh-Wood's paintings. E.g. http://www.americanreadingforum.org/yearbook/yearbooks/02_yearbook/pdf/06_Dowhower_final.pdf For the Royal Academy exhibitions, from WP:ARTIST "The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums." I've not been able to find out whether these exhibitions featured Haigh-Wood's works as a significant part, or whether his pictures were one out of many. I've also been unable to find if significant art galleries hold works by Haigh-Wood. It appears that the UK national gallery and portrait gallery do not, unless my search-fu has failed. However, as this appears to be a case where more in-depth research is necessary to characterise his notability, I suggest that the article remains until someone can put in the necessary work. Ross-c (talk) 07:14, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you may find that is the person who can "put in the necessary work" ... the problem being that there is nothing further to say and WP:BURDEN applies. I'm afraid that I can say no more about that here because of the potential for outing. I have an inherently low opinion of topic notability guidelines, so it is probably best that I do not comment on trash like that. As far as the RA exhibitions go, Haigh-Wood was a mere Associate of the Royal Academy and literally tens of thousands of paintings have been exhibited there. FWIW, I am resident close to Haigh-Wood's home ground, I know a lot of the local history and even round here, he is known mainly for the Eliot connection (and not known at all by most people). He really is a minor figure. - Sitush (talk) 09:44, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
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 * leaning delete The only significant biographical data I could find was in a biography of his daughter. I couldn't find anything suggesting him as a significant artist. Mangoe (talk) 14:34, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:25, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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