Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles T Payne


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The result was moot as already merged. GRBerry 16:31, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Charles T Payne

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He is Barack Obama's great uncle. That's it, which is not enough to pass WP:BIO. Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 10:16, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Yet another Obama relative non-notable in their own right.  Ka renjc 18:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * For goodness sake. This article was nominated 14 minutes after creation when the editor was still working on it.  It's now an hour and a half.  This is silly.  He passes WP:N and WP:BIO, but fails WP:NOT#NEWS.  I'll withhold judgment until and unless the article gets expanded but from what we see now it looks like it should be merged into the Family of Barack Obama article -- it's alrady been added -- and redirected.  Wikidemo (talk) 02:32, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I do not see him pass WP:N. Sure, he has received media coverage, but it is highly questionable if he was really the subject of the coverage. The news articles of him taking part in liberating Buchenwald are obviously only a response to the critics of Obama's Memorial Day Speech, where he told about an uncle who helped liberating Auschwitz. While Obama mixed up the concentration camp, the underlying statement was generally true. The point made by the article was: Obama is no liar. So Payne's media coverage is just part of the election campaign.
 * Furthermore, WP:N also states that notability is not temporary. As it stands now, apart from other statements what a good boy Obama is, Payne will not receive any major coverage. Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 07:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * MERGE: (if not to keep) not to delete all its content, per Wikidemo >--^. $\sim$ Justmeherenow     15:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC) Maybe I'm overstepping but I'll snowball merge.  $\sim$ Justmeherenow     15:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


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