Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlie Buckton (Home and Away)


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The result was   delete both articles, following the only strongly asserted comments. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:55, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Charlie Buckton (Home and Away)

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This has gone to an Afd discussion as the Proposal to delete Charlie Buckton was objected to. The reason the PROD was opposed was due to the fact that WP:FICT is a proposal and not a guideline. Fair enough, but this proposal is based on several already standing guidelines which should be analyzed when deciding what to do with this article.

Before i go through the reasons why this article should be deleted. It should be noted that it was decided to delete several articles recently based on the notability arguments i present here. Each case is individual however it may be good to look at. The discussion can be viewed at Articles for deletion/Roman Harris

WP:N states that a subject is considered notable, if it has recicved significant real world coverage. I did a google search and the only remotley notable thing i found was a newspaper photo gallery, with the character and it was only included because the actress is notable. Remember this is an article about the character.

WP:WAF states 'When an article is created, the subject's real-world notability should be established according to the general notability guideline and the more specific notability guideline for fiction-related subjects by including independent reliable secondary sources.'

My point is that these two characters do not meet notability guidelines and as a result an article is not warranted. When more information is avaliable regarding this character it should be included in List of current Home and Away characters. It should be noted that very few of the Home and Away characters have their own articles and the only characters that have thier own articles are those that are considered notable and have been on the show for several years, including Alf Stewart and Irene Roberts. (There are others because i havn't got around to merging them into the list article, its the middle of exams for me, but ill get around to it in the holidays. ) Printer222 (talk) 10:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Natural, my understanding is that the character is new so at this point she is not notable. I object to many of the recent decisions to delete Soap Characters as a lot seem to be based on WP:Fict. I also believe that many of these articles can be written with sources that show they've been in notable storylines. It's more of a case of finding them. I also believe strongly that the guideline WP:Notable makes it far too difficult for fictional characters to actually be notable and that people are wrongly taking it as a policy. My belief is that if the soap character has 1) been in notable storylines 2) has had an influence on outcome of the show for the shows season or a period of time and 3) the article is well sourced then they should always be kept. However, this seems to fail on all three of these accounts. However, I am unable to judge as I am not familiar with the goings on in the soap it belongs to. Englishrose (talk) 19:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.   —Nick Dowling (talk) 07:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom, or merge to List of current Home and Away characters if this is a notable character in the series. Nick Dowling (talk) 07:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete both per previous discussion, WP:FICTION and WP:RECENTISM. Moreover, any of these characters has media coverage. We have to extend the cleanup and better organise WP:SOAPS to avoid the creation of these articles in the future. Minor characters can be added in Lists of characters. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions.   —Magioladitis (talk) 09:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of current Home and Away characters - character does not have wide notability at the moment, but given that there is a merge target it might as well be sent there. Lankiveil (speak to me) 00:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC).


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