Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlie Cook (wrestler)


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The result was keep. Nakon 01:37, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Charlie Cook (wrestler)

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No evidence that this is a notable wrestler. Neither source seems like a reliable source on the matter. I believe this is the same wrestler as deleted in 2007 per Articles for deletion/Charlie Cook. Ricky81682 (talk) 07:37, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Probable Weak  Keep: ...but this would need specialist attention/rescue, since given the era sourcing would mostly need to be from wrestling magazines. I was thinking that he might have gotten in under WP:NGRIDIRON, however it appears that the NFL claim was kayfabe, ref the Steelers' PDFs. On the assumption that the Cagematch database is reasonably correct, he held multiple championships, all regional — but wrestling was very much regional in those days. He has a biographical entry in Black Stars of Professional Wrestling and a couple of mentions in Ric Flair's autobiography. Anyone who held multiple belts for reasonable periods must have had some kind of significant fan reaction, however: This indicates that he was a top Florida babyface and "an integral part of Florida wrestling", and this indicates that Ric Flair was booed when he faced him. There's a number of youtube clips that show that he appears to have had an extended televised wrestling presence. Per User:MadMax from the previous AFD, he was rated in the top 500 (alltime) in in the 2003 PWI Years list -- (again, on the presumption that that link is correct) I note that they've placed him only 10 below Mikey Whipwreck, and above Mark Henry. He also placed for their 1981 list of Most Improved Wrestler of the Year -- note the company he's in on that list, and that this was not an editorial award, but a reader award!  undefinedHydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)  12:33, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep - Notable wrestler who won several prominent championships. PWI Most Improved Wrestler of the Year in 1981. Sources have been added to help establish notability. GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:12, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the sourcing -- Wikipedia as an antidote to the memory hole of an ephemeral Internet! undefinedHydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)  07:04, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep Won numerous prominent awards in his profession, meets GNG.LM2000 (talk) 23:14, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Is there a notability standard for professional wrestling? It seems to fall to WP:ENTERTAINER. I'd guess these awards fall under significant roles in stage performances. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:58, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * In the past we have used WP:ENT as the guideline rather than WP:ATH.LM2000 (talk) 00:16, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * That's explicitly at Notability_(sports). I'm just curious how the awards play into that interpretation; I may just withdraw the nomination if it makes sense. The awards are kayfabe in the technical sense but I presume they give an impression of the significance of his role within the industry or at least within the league. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:48, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment - Cook's article mentions that he won the Most Improved Wrestler of the Year award in 1981, but List of Pro Wrestling Illustrated awards and Cagematch state he was the third runner up. Does anyone have access to the reference in Cook's article that can do a quick fact check? Nikki  ♥  311   18:38, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Response - Sorry about that. I'm not sure what I was thinking when I added that. I have corrected it. GaryColemanFan (talk) 07:04, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


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