Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlie Murphy's True Hollywood Stories: Rick James


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was nomination withdrawn. Mailer Diablo 00:23, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Charlie Murphy's True Hollywood Stories: Rick James
This is a textbook example of WP:CRUFT. I thought this skit was very funny, but I can't see a single reason to keep pages of text on no more than ten minutes of TV. These articles chronicling everything ever broadcast are tedious. This may be suitable for a fansite, but not a general interest encyclopedia. Brian G. Crawford 00:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Nominator has withdrawn his nomination (though I think prematurely). Someone else nominate this or retire the AfD! - Richardcavell 05:32, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge into Rick James; there is already some there, but it should be expanded somewhat if this article is deleted. As memes go, this was a reasonably notable one; it was mentioned several times on The Daily Show, and got some press coverage after almost all the election signs for some city councillor in Mississippi named "Rick James" got defaced with ", bitch!". --Saforrest 01:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Why are you so keen to delete? WP:CRUFT is not a reason for AfD, it is an essay. Check out the Wikipedia mailing list for a current discussion on the term. The articles might not be tedious for people who are interested in the topic. It has enough content for its own page, why get rid of it. Ans  e  ll  03:15, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, to hell with it. Nomination withdrawn according to WP:SNOW. Brian G. Crawford 03:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge I agree with the nominator, not every single piece of pop culture deserves an article. IrishGuy 07:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Brian G. Crawford. -- Kjkolb 10:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Maybe merging it would be a good idea. In my opinion, articles about TV skits this short shouldn't be written unless the skit has had a lasting impact on television. Jared W 11:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Charlie Murphy's True Hollywood Stories are the skits for which Chappelle's Show is mostly known for. Seeing as the show is extremely successful and is also an extremely high selling DVD, and also the fact that you will see people uttering the phrase "I'm Rick James bitch!" in many different contexts, its value as cultural phenomena is well ingrained, I say keep it, but maybe add more to it. For example there should be some more information about the skit when Charlie Murphy plays basketball with Prince. Besides, the great thing about Wikipedia is that it can function as more than just a basic general encyclopedia, but also a pop cultural encyclopedia. IrishGuy's articles on magicians have no more credit than this one for example, this article has far more relevance to a larger amount of people. Haggis101 9:17, 4 May 2006
 * Merge a condensed summary with Rick James. Otherwise, I totally agree with nom, there is already way too much fancruft material on WP, making WP an indiscriminate collection of information (WP:NOT). -- P199 17:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge per the suggestions above. Eusebeus 17:55, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge most important information into Rick James per above. joturn e r 22:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Chappelle's Show. This is a well-known sketch from Chappelle's Show, but it is already adequately summarized twice in that article. Articles about television programs don't need to go into such detail as this. Note that the plot description of this 13-minute television sketch is longer than the plot summary of War and Peace. Again, I'm not saying we should ignore this sketch on Wikipedia, but we don't need to do more than give the basics in Chappelle's Show. --Metropolitan90 07:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep It is pretty famous, but it looks like this AFD is voting towards merge. So a merge with a redirect should be fine. Cvene64 04:43, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - definitely don't delete. - Richardcavell 05:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


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