Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlie Richmond (inventor)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure)  Rcsprinter  (talk)  15:54, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Charlie Richmond (inventor)
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Whilst it is a CSD:A7 candidate in it's current form, the pre-stubbed version is an autobiographical CV, with no significant coverage able to be found in independent reliable sources. Previous AFD was withdrawn with no participation from anyone other than the nominator. The-Pope (talk) 14:27, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep. The bio should be expanded to discuss Richmond's early influence on sound design for theatre, and his inventions for theatre show control. In the 1980s, he wrote a monthly column in Theatre design & technology published by the United States Institute for Theatre Technology (USITT). He invented the MIDI Show Control (MSC) protocol in 1990 and led the MSC Working Group (within the USITT) which developed it. His invention the AudioBox won a Thea Award in 2000. Binksternet (talk) 15:11, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Is that award notable? It appears it may have been self-nominated. I'm happy to withdraw the nomination if significant coverage is added from independent reliable sources.The-Pope (talk) 15:58, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The Thea Award is very notable in its market segment, given by the Themed Entertainment Association. In your link, the note about Charlie Richmond submitting something appears to me to refer to the information following the notice—he submitted the list of people who helped the project become successful. Above the notice is the fact that Richmond won the award. I cannot infer from this that he nominated himself. Binksternet (talk) 01:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep Binksternet makes a convincing case. Google books for the guy's name and "inventor" shows some results.  Keyboard: Volume 17, Issues 7-12 mentions something he did, but only a snippet is viewable for free.  I restored the content of the article that was removed by someone previously without a legitimate reason.  If you believe an article should be deleted it, you send it to the AFD, you don't just erase 99% of it, and leave but a single sentence remaining.   D r e a m Focus  21:28, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep As per sources I've added to the article, and, as a result, GNG.  As a reminder, claims that someone is notable "because they did X" are always just a little stronger if you actually supply a source that says they did X.  --joe deckertalk to me 17:03, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep, based on the professional sound article, which does go into some depth about the subject (rather than the products, inventions, or companies associated with the subject). I'd like to find 1-2 more like that, seems like there should be something out there. I do think the article will need a severe trim, and it is largely unsourced, but AFD is not cleanup. --Nuujinn (talk) 17:07, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - The topic is covered in several reliable sources. See article for some of them. Northamerica1000 (talk) 01:04, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
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