Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlie Sheringham


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The result was   nominator withdrawal. The subject passes WP:ATHLETE since this person used to play in a fully professional league. Reliable sources have been found to verify that. (non-administrative closure) -- RyRy  ( talk ) 08:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Charlie Sheringham

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Seems to fail WP:ATHLETE, unless CP Baltimore are in a fully pro league. That would leave the articles with the task of giving him notability, and any interest in him and his career in those is purely in the light of reflected fame from his father. Famous relatives do not confer notability. Kevin McE (talk) 23:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC) (Strikeout my own nomination in light of evidence of status of USL 2nd division Kevin McE (talk) 05:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Kevin McE (talk) 23:41, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Crystal Palace Baltimore are fully professional - the USL Second Division is roughly the heirarchical equivalent of England's League 1. --JonBroxton (talk) 23:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Is the league (rather than the club) fully professional? --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. - it says "One level below the USL First Division lives in the USL Second Division, the foundation of professional soccer in the United States. The 2008 campaign features a 10-team format playing a regional schedule consisting of 20 regular season matches, 10 home and 10 away. The USL Second Division schedule is augmented by participation in the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup, and various exhibitions.  The league is the birthplace of professional players that aspire to reach the highest-levels of the game, while providing affordable family entertainment within their city." --JonBroxton (talk) 02:09, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, no argument if his US sojourn was sufficient to meet the criteria, and no offence intended to fans of US soccer at that level. BUT I still don't think that his career thus far, such as it has been, merits the high profile mention it has in his father's article. Kevin McE (talk) 08:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It does meet it. I said that below. matt91486 (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. As far as I am aware it is a fully professional league.  Also, he has played for fully professional clubs in other fully professional leagues.  Vincent Valentine 00:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not according to his article. Kevin McE (talk) 08:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - from what I'm aware, USL D2 does confer notability. matt91486 (talk) 00:46, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - no league games, but he has played multiple games for Championship level teams. Londo  06  11:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Article makes no mention of this: if there is verification of cup appearances, it should go into the article, otherwise notability hangs entirely on CP Baltimore's league's status. Kevin McE (talk) 11:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - the content of the article is irrelevant in an AfD (or so it was the last time I read the AfD rules, which was admittedly like 2 years ago) - the fact that the article doesn't assert notability is only relevant in WP:CSD. If someone finds evidence to indicate the article is notable, but doesn't add it to the article, it still counts in the AfD... ugen64 (talk) 16:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep CorleoneSerpicoMontana (talk) 10:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per JonBroxton. GiantSnowman 16:24, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as above, it has been demonstrated that this qualifies under WP:ATHLETE as participation is fully pro. RFerreira (talk) 19:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


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