Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlotte Benkner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to List of supercentenarians from the United States. Clear consensus to not keep as a standalone article. Merge seems the most reasonable alternative. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:45, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Charlotte Benkner

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She was the oldest until it was proven she was not the oldest. Fails WP:BIO and WP:NOPAGE Suggest redirecting this to whatever list she is on and putting any salvageable info there below the list. Legacypac (talk) 10:03, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Led an ordinary life, and received a bit of incorrect publicity calling her the oldest then-living person, when she wasn't. Fails WP:BIO, WP:NOTNEWS, WP:BLP1E. Edison (talk) 21:01, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong keep passes WP:GNG and WP:BIO. I think oldest German person ever and oldest living American is very notable. She was thought to be world's oldest person is itself have notability. revocation of the record will not be a loss of notability. longest-lived person in the United States or World is usually have an article.--Inception2010 (talk) 10:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * How? According to one editor writing 5 books, one on the NYT Best Sellers List for 5 weeks, is not enough to pass GNG. Legacypac (talk) 10:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * OTHERCRAPDOESNTEXIST is an extraordinarily poor argument for deletion. Alansohn (talk) 19:20, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete/merge basic details to appropriate list. EEng (talk) 13:12, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOPAGE, virtually nothing in article that could be considered encyclopedic, once the OR, SYNTH and TRIVIA are removed. Possible merge, but how many minibios is too many? DerbyCountyinNZ  (Talk Contribs) 11:07, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge with List of supercentenarians from the United States. Coverage in sources suggests she passes WP:GNG, and enough for at least a mini-biography. -- Ollie231213 (talk) 02:06, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Really? the oldest person ever who was born in Germany isn't notable? I beg to differ. She died over 11 years ago so sourcing will be more difficult, but not a reason to delete this page.--Uietueps (talk) 09:06, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and Expand The article is well-sourced and concerns a woman is the oldest known person to have ever been born in present day Germany. Article should be expanded, not deleted. 930310 (talk) 18:33, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep The strong claim of notability is backed by the required reliable and verifiable sources needed to create an appropriately significant encyclopedic article about the subject that meets and exceeds the WP:BIO standard. Alansohn (talk) 19:20, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge Apart from the Guiness book of records, 4 of the remaining 5 sources do cover her in significant detail. The Berliner Zeitung source only has her as a passing mention at the bottom of the article. Despite the sources, her life was so uneventful and non notable that beyond the current Start class it is, there is little that could be done to expand it. Blackmane (talk) 12:29, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Charlotte Benkner is the oldest german person ever.--153.151.83.197 (talk) 05:25, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect I think much of the discussion here is off the mark. Notability has been demonstrated, but that is not enough for a standalone page. Per NOPAGE and PERMASTUB, this topic is far better served by merging this article into the relevant list; there will never be enough material to justify an entire page. Vanamonde93 (talk) 07:09, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.