Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlotte Lawrence (singer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I'm judging consensus to be keep here, but it isn't an easy call. There seems to be enough disparate sources to indicate readers will be seeking encyclopedic information about this topic, but currently the sources are on the weak side. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 12:10, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Charlotte Lawrence (singer)

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Non-notable individual lacking in-depth, non-trivial support. red dogsix (talk) 16:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep seems to be notable as a model featured in Teen Vogue and Harpers Bazaar Atlantic306 (talk) 16:41, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - I did not know that being featured in trivial, non-in-depth puff pieces as part of Teen Vogue and Harpers Bazaar was a criteria for inclusion into Wikiepdia. red dogsix (talk) 17:10, 16 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Reliable sources for models, she's not an academic Atlantic306 (talk) 20:06, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * CommentI'm unclear what "featured" means in this context. Is it being used to say she appeared in the magazine or was there an article or spread about her? If it's the former it is likely not enough to confer notability but I think it's unclear. Knope7 (talk) 22:07, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: if she's more famous as a model then it seems the disambiguator "singer" is not the correct one for the title of this person's article. Richard3120 (talk) 17:34, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. It doesn't seem this AfD would survive the scrutiny for singer. WPGNG seems to be a more fair assessment of notability. But I'll refrain from ivoting; I generally don't get involved unless all the researchable sources are in English. ShelbyMarion (talk) 16:18, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * This page should be moved to Charlotte Lawrence (which is currently just a redirect to this article). -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 01:30, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - Here are additional sources for the article to help with expansion: 12345 Aoba47 (talk) 01:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete having a photo in this or that magazine is not a sign of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:15, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: She just released an EP, has millions of monthly listeners on Spotify, WWD just profiled her, seems to be a real up-and-comer. If Clairo is notable enough for an article I don't see why Charlotte isn't.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:01, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:35, 1 July 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep A google search shows she's notable, and not just through relation but now also by her work in the music industry. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 01:17, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment From a simple google search I found her referenced on iTunes, Fendi, Galor Magazine, W Magazine, Spotify, Teen Vogue, IMG Models, Atwood Magazine, WWD, and Billboard. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 01:25, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 15:17, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: a bit on the weak side, but her EP, singles and collaborations have been reviewed substantively, such as : Charlotte Lawrence Wants To Be Known For Her Moody Pop Music & Charlotte Lawrence Is Young and Reckless. A touch too soon, but I'd rather see this article kept, than deleted. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:37, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep particularly given the sources that I have found above. I agree with the above user that it is a weak keep, but I believe there is enough coverage to justify an article. Aoba47 (talk) 19:36, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per the sources found above. Thsmi002 (talk) 12:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Technically an admin would have been within their rights to speedy delete this article as WP:G4 (see Articles for deletion/Charlotte Lawrence); however now consensus has changed, that would not be appropriate. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:58, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


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