Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chase De Leo


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The result was delete. Consensus is that this article currently fails the notability guidelines. If they in the future meet the guidelines (such as by actually playing for the Winnipeg Jets) let me know and I will restore. Davewild (talk) 15:52, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Chase De Leo

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NN mid-level amateur player who fails WP:NHOCKEY. No independent, significant coverage found to meet the GNG other than routine sports coverage explicitly debarred by WP:ROUTINE. One of several such articles created by WpgJets4Life.   Ravenswing   21:58, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I have no issues with the other Winnipeg Jets prospects you have marked for deletion. However, I think Chase De Leo should be left up, as he was selected to Team USA, in the 2015 IIHF World Junior Hockey Championships. He also scored the winning goal, as the US defeated Finland, during the tourney. WpgJets4Life (talk) 00:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Being named to the U20 team, or playing in the WJC, doesn't meet NHOCKEY or accord any presumptive notability.   Ravenswing   06:44, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

What exactly constitutes `deletion`from Wikipedia, in terms of hockey leagues or skills. I read the Ice Hockey section, but it's somewhat convoluted. TOo bad there are no specific examples. I notice there are Jets players that were chosen much later, but still have Wikipedia entries. So if a player is in some obscure European league (i.e. Swedish or Russian) is safe from deletion, when the AHL is an arguably superior league. Just seems funny that it seems there is a pro-European bias, especially looking at Round 4 entries of the 2014 NHL Draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WpgJets4Life (talk • contribs) 09:45, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * NHOCKEY isn't convoluted at all. It's quite simple, and we really don't need examples: if you've played in a top-end league, you're eligible.  If you're a first round draft choice, you're eligible.  If you've played enough games in a high enough minor league, you're eligible.  If you're a member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, you're eligible.  If you've led a minor or major junior league in scoring or been a first team all-star, you're eligible.  If you've done none of these things, you probably aren't. What NHOCKEY seeks to interpret is hockey's end of WP:GNG, which holds that a subject who has received "significant coverage" in multiple, reliable, independent sources is notable.  Our take is that someone who's played in the NHL or led the ECHL in scoring likely has received that coverage, and someone who's a third-liner in the Federal Hockey League or the Quebec major junior league probably hasn't.  You might not care about Swedish or Russian hockey, but I assure you that the hockey fans in Sweden and Russia do, and hockey receives a great deal of coverage in those nations; someone who plays in their national leagues get just as much press, and that's what meets the GNG.   Ravenswing   20:13, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

With all due respect, you may want to review WP:DONTBITE Thanks! WpgJets4Life (talk) 12:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)WpgJets4Life
 * I'm familiar with it, thanks. What did I post above that you claim is bitey?   Ravenswing   05:28, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Notability in terms of wikipedia is based on how much coverage they get in sources. Players playing in top level national leagues in places like Sweden or Russia to use your examples usually get more news coverage in their respective countries that AHL players will get in the US/Canada. Notability isn't about skill or the league they are in. It is all about WP:GNG/WP:NHOCKEY. And I would hardly cause either of those leagues obscure they are both covered heavily in hockey media. -DJSasso (talk) 17:54, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. WpgJets4Life (talk) 04:53, 6 June 2015 (UTC)WpgJets4Life
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions.  lavender |(formerly HMSSolent )| lambast  01:15, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:02, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Could this article on Chase De Leo be archived, if it is voted for deletion? Today, it was just announced that De Leo has signed a contract with the NHL Winnipeg Jets, so in the event that he plays in the NHL for at least one game in 2015-16, which is highly possible, the author will not have to start off from scratch. WpgJets4Life (talk) 20:59, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails to meet WP:NHOCKEY or WP:GNG. Can be recreated when/if they meet them through hockey or any other means. -DJSasso (talk) 17:54, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails at WP:NHOCKEY and WP:GNG. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:01, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


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