Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chatsworth Stadium


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (non-admin closure) Article will be moved to Kings Park Soccer Stadium per consensus. Darkspots (talk) 03:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Chatsworth Stadium

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The name has been confused with another stadium in the same city. This stadium, to my knowledge has no notability and all edits seem to source information from a website which has made the same mistake or uses information from wikipedia anyway, resulting in a circular reference. More details on the articles talk page. GetDownAdam (talk) 16:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions.   —GetDownAdam (talk) 16:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't understand. Are you claiming that the stadium, as stated in the article, doesn't exist? As a general rule, stadiums this size are notable. There's no way we don't have reliable sources on a stadium of 35,000 people.--Prosfilaes (talk) 16:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral. It would help if someone could decide whether this article is supposed to be about Chatsworth Stadium (as indicated by the title) or Kings Park Soccer Stadium (as indicated in the first line). Once this is clarified I may be able to take a more definite position. If they are the same, that needs to be explicitly stated. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and rewrite The latter has been demolished according to Moses Mabhida Stadium; these pages on Chatsworth and Kings Park appear to indicate that they are two separate stadiums. Rewrite it as a stub about Chatsworth. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 20:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Clarification It appears to me that all of the information we have on the Chatsworth stadium is in fact information relating to the now demolished Kings Park Stadium. As a result, editing the Chatsworth page to reflect information we have on the Chatsworth Stadium would result in a blank page. Chatsworth Stadium definitely exists. I just have no idea how big it is and can't find a strong reference that itself doesn't reference wikipedias mistake. Kings Park Soccer Stadium was probably 35,000 people, not Chatsworth. In terms of rewriting it as a stub about Chatsworth, I don't feel that the stub would have ever been created if the confusion about which stadium it is didn't exist. The refernces used above by JeremyMcCracken use wiki as a source for text and are obviously in the same boat we are. ABSA Stadium is in fact also known as Kings Park RUGBY stadium. The picture they show is of the old Kings Park SOCCER stadium. This is the RUGBY stadium across the road which they are calling Chatsworth. Very obviously not by the signage on the roof reading ABSA. GetDownAdam (talk) 13:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Change title to Kings Park Soccer (or Football) Stadium. If GetDownAdam is correct, then this article relates to the now demolished Kings Park Soccer (or Football) Stadium.  The photos from this website is of the same stadium as this website (look at the curvature of the uncovered stands).  I would say this should be separated from the Moses Mabhida Stadium because they are separate venues, even if they occupy the same ground.  One was completely demolished to make room for the other (similar to the new and original Estadio da Luz, new and original Estadio Jose Alvalade, and new and original Wembley) .  Looking at what links here, I see Durban Stars F.C. currently play at Chatsworth Stadium, which would not be this venue since it is demolished.  Now it could be that page hasn't been updated to a new stadium or they could play at Chatsworth Stadium.  I can't find a club website that indicates where they play.  Patken4 (talk) 13:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Change name I'm cool with that plan. I just hope someone will know how to do that, cause I for one have no idea. Hopefully it won't be something I will have to worry about. ;-) GetDownAdam (talk) 11:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. To move a page, simply click the Move tab at the top of the Chatsworth Stadium page (it's between history and watch).  That will give you the option of where to move the page to.  Simply type in Kings Park Soccer Stadium (I am using soccer since it seems that it was the sport is referred to as in RSA) and click the Move button.  Patken4 (talk) 01:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


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