Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chaudhry Yaqoob


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The result was   keep. JForget 22:20, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Chaudhry Yaqoob

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Smells like a Resume to me. Nothing extraordinary here  MARWAT   11:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Not even an assertion of any notability. No references. Capitalismojo (talk) 18:00, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep for now. He is the chairman of the Pakistan Volleyball Federation and was recently appointed Chairman CM Task Force for Sports by Shahbaz Sharif: . Checking the above, he gets quite a few GNews hitsl, too. Location (talk) 20:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep He has remained Inspector General in Grade-22, which is the highest grade of bureaucracy in British. Indian, Pakistani and many other commonwealth countries bureacuracy. In Pakistan the 99% of Secretaries of difefrent Divisions / Ministries are in Grade 22, as the position / seat of the Sceretary is of Grade-22. Before many secretaries and Inspector Generals (IG)s have remained in Grade-20 or 21, like Dil Jan Khan but now mainly the I.Gs and Secretaries are in Grade-22. If there could be an Article for Pakistani Army Chiefs, who are in Grade-22 then why couldn't we have pages for Inspector Generals and Secretaries? Chief of the Army is under the Ministry of Defence and the Defense Ministry's senior most official is a Secretary who have all the three Arm Forces under him. I would strongly request to keep the article, if it is concerned to notability. Beside this, the user Marwatt who has nominated this article "deliberately", on the other hand have voted to keep the similar position holder's article Dil Jan Khan, who has even remained I.G in Grade 21 and has retired in the same Grade. It seems a personal vandetta to me, as the nominator himself claims to be a bureaucrat which seems he might have served under him and had bad tatse in his subordination. Strong Keep. --LineofWisdom (talk) 10:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments In this specific instance we need references that might show notability. A series of articles about Yaqoob, even one prominent story. He is (was) a "highest ranking" civil servant? Great! How many achieve that rank of G-22? Is it notable? Where are the references?  There seems to be some sort of  wide-ranging dispute between MARWAT and Lineof Wisdom; that should not be fought out here. It is improper. Capitalismojo (talk) 12:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments No, I have no intention to fight with him. You could see on two ocassions, I have voted in his favour. What seems right to me would be voted in favour by me and what seems wrong to me vould have a vote against it by me. I really would appreictae the discussion as per subject and topic, rather being personal. I could assure, dear Capitalismojo.
 * Comments- My only intention in nominating this article was to block the flood of all cops working on similar positions to have their own pages on Wikipedia that might look like their CVs. There is another article on a lower level cop Mr.Abdul Majeed Khan Marwat and in order to strengthen his claim the creator of that article was quoting examples of cops like this one to have their own pages. On a separate note reaching Grade 22 isn’t a big deal and 100s of civil servants alone in Pakistan reach and retire from this grade. I am myself a Grade 20 Bureaucrat and in due course I will also reach Grade 22 but I don’t think that my bureaucratic position justifies a separate article for me. And yes this user LineofWisdom has been bugging me for quite some time and is following me around on Wikipedia just to vent his vengeance against me. Finally I don’t think Mr.Chaudhry Yaqoob has done something which should make him worthy to have a separate page over here.--  MARWAT   06:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Peronalism I don't know, why Marwatt always run from the debate and start attacking me personally. Just see the history and you will know who is following who. Yes, it is there in the history, which would never be deleted that he is the one who has always followed me. He has followed me at 6 different articles. What happened if I used my right to vote here? --LineofWisdom (talk) 06:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW ( Talk ) 15:35, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Comments Whether you did or did not want a personal argument here, you've got it. Take it somewhere else, please, and stay on topic here. Nimloth250 (talk) 15:42, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Nimloth250
 * Weak keep Article needs improvement, but a google search does show that there are reliable sources on him. Richard (talk) 17:20, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I would think that notability is pretty clear as chief of police in a province larger than most US states, which is verified by the Google News Archive search linked above. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep head of a provincial police force is notable, and if we get pages on them all, that would be a good thing.  I would certainly expect many hundreds ( more likely several thousand) of Pakistan civili servants to be notable. The relevant policy is NOT PAPER.
 * Keep. Seems fairly notable, with decent google results, and agree with location and phil here.  Athe Weatherman   23:47, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Regarding the "head of provincial police": he isn't. He is the retired former inspector general not the "head of the provincial police", and never was .Capitalismojo (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. According to Inspector-General of Police the inspector general is the head of the provincial police force. The fact that the subject has now retired from this position doesn't take away his notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. There are 4 Provinces, Islamabad Capital Territory and Azad Jammu & Kashmir under the control of Pakistani establishment. Each one of them gets a Police Chief making the number 6 in total. On an average, every year they are replaced twice due to political interferences. Making the tally to 12 such chiefs a year only in Pakistan. Besides this is a Grade 22 Bureaucratic Position and there are more than 500 such positions in Pakistan alone. That will mean having a separate page for each of them on Wikipedia. My question is that - has he done any extra ordinary deed which should distinguish him from the rest of the bureaucrats. If he has done so then he is worthy for inclusion otherwise, we will be just opening a flood gate for such CVs. And further more if he gets a keep then what about this guy Dil Jan Khan who remained on the similar position as well as remained the head of a UN Office?. --  MARWAT   01:22, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
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