Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cheese-eating surrender monkeys


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (Yes, this discussion happened almost 10 year ago, but it was never formally closed.) Steel1943  (talk) 18:31, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Cheese-eating surrender monkeys
AfDs for this article:  This page was initially proposed for deletion by User:Catblack, who stated "If it's a quote, should go to wikiquote, if it's france bashing, should be deleted. I stumbled onto this via the wikipedia front page!" , but didn't mention his reasons here, so I'm doing that for him. -- Schnee 22:11, 15 May 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Well-worked on article by several people, absolutely no reason for deletion.  RickK 22:12, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep it. With regard to it being a quote: the article is not about the quote as such, but rather there to offer an explanation and some background on its use, especially the popularity it gained in some circles last year. With regard to it being france bashing: the phrase may be, but the article is not, which is an important distinction. You wouldn't propose the deletion of articles such as Anti-gay slogan and the redirect from Aids kills fags dead, either, would you? -- Schnee 22:19, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep SweetLittleFluffyThing
 * Haven't quite figured out the deletion system here at Wikipedia. My apologies... Thought I had followed the guidelines properly. The page in question really doesn't strike me, still, as having relevance, and still seems a justification for a cheap shot at France. My main objection is that I found it linked off the 'did you know' main page! Are we going to make pages justifying every instance of hate speech in the right wing media? Catblack 22:25, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
 * If you consider The Simpsons to be right wing media...Keep! Philwelch 23:24, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep (though note I started it, so discount this vote if you wish). The article does not justify it or support use of the phrase. It explains it. It - the article - is not an attack. Google demonstrates its currency unambiguously. FWIW, I'm with the French on ths one, though clearly I still have a bone to pick with them over Mururoa and Rainbow Warrior ;). Catblack, if you should choose, you can remove the VfD tag from the page. --Tagishsimon
 * (First time commenting, so apologies if this doesn't format correctly -- can't quite figure out how to sign this properly.) There's no reason to delete this article, as it is a phrase that has been around since the mid-90s and is fairly common in the U.S. and elsewhere, albeit only within small circles and not the population as a whole.  It regained popularity during the build-up to the war in Iraq, but even prior to that you would hear it periodically.  The article contains absolutely no French-bashing, since that's not the subject of the article.  The article is about the history of the phrase and why it is used, which is important for people who don't understand it or where it's from but hear it periodically. It's part of pop culture in the U.S. and abroad, whether that's good or bad, and as such it should stay. Beginning
 * Keep. Good, informative article. Everyking 23:17, 15 May 2004 (UTC)

Ok, removed the VFd tag off the page... but really, the citation on the main page - "Did you know..." how does that get there? "...that Groundskeeper Willie, a character on The Simpsons, coined the phrase cheese-eating surrender monkeys?" is what made me do a serious wha-wha-wha-whaaat? at it. Catblack 23:33, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.