Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chennai – Trivandrum Superfast Express


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  Jujutacular  talk 03:31, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Chennai – Trivandrum Superfast Express

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I was unable to find any significant coverage in reliable, independent sources for this train service, so I asked at WT:TRAINS to see if anyone there could prove the service was notable. However, the consensus there leaned towards delete and so I have brought to AfD. Jenks24 (talk) 07:29, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  —Jenks24 (talk) 07:35, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  —Jenks24 (talk) 07:35, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

--Bijuts (talk) 07:37, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete; does not appear to be notable. No substantial discussion in independent sources. Not even a passing mention of it in specialist media like Railway Gazette. bobrayner (talk) 10:03, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * As an aside, there are quite a lot of similar articles on other "superfast" train routes in India which also appear to be short on notability. I'm currently populating Category:Superfast trains and a few of those could be AfD candidates. bobrayner (talk) 10:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 *  Keep; In which parameter it become non notable? Introduction date is not the creteria. Even after introduction it becomes immense popularity comparing the other trains in the route. Also please check its reservation status'. User:Bobrayner also put so many tags instead of deletion tags in other train pages which are less important than this train.
 * That would be an otherstuff argument. After looking at the Chennai – Trivandrum Superfast Express article, I found there were very many other articles on Indian trains which are poorly-sourced and low-notability (and in some cases fictional); I'm doing some housekeeping, pending a community decision on the best way to deal with them, because unilaterally sending 200 articles to AfD would be disruptive. In the meantime, Chennai – Trivandrum Superfast Express should be judged on its own merits. bobrayner (talk) 10:11, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

I think these are required for notability of Chennai – Trivandrum Superfast Express
 * http://www.hindu.com/2006/07/01/stories/2006070111140400.htm,
 * http://www.hindu.com/2006/08/14/stories/2006081414410300.htm,
 * http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/24/stories/2010042452690800.htm,
 * http://www.hinduonnet.com/2007/08/09/stories/2007080959180300.htm,
 * http://www.thehinduimages.com/hindu/photoDetail.do?photoId=7935113,
 * http://technoparkliving.com/2010/09/chennai-super-fast-to-stop-at-kazhakkoottam/,
 * http://www.technoparktoday.com/chennai-trivandrum-super-fast-now-stop-at-kazhakkoottam/
 * Hindu.com is the website of second-largest circulated daily English newspaper in India The Hindu.

--Bijuts (talk) 12:45, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 *  Keep There are enough references given above to confirm that the train is not fictional. Shyamsunder (talk) 09:53, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The question is one of notability. Nobody doubts that trains between Chennai and Trivandrum exist, but are they notable?

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Whilst I'm quite convinced that the train isn't fictional, I've so far seen no links that the train is notable, as per Notability. The above references are a mixture of train timetable alterations (often noting changes to several other non-notable trains), letters to newspapers, and a photograph of what appears to be the first journey of this otherwise non-notable train service.  The referenced photograph might be useful to support notability if one can also show that this type of send-off is reserved for the first running of special train services, rather than all new long-distance trains. Tim PF (talk) 00:31, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Keep The train service routes in India generally have names and this article ought to be kept as a stub. Superfast trains are among the most special of the train services. Getting sources for civic infrastructure in a developing country can be very difficult. It is original research but this is a major train service. The Hindu newspaper source provided shows that the introduction of the train service was notable enough to be featured in a major newspaper, so that should be enough. If it is not then at least let's talk about what to do with all these other train articles; perhaps they could all be merged together in some list.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)   12:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Two of the references above, technoparkliving.com and technoparktoday.com mentions about train no.2697 (now 12697). This article is about 12695/12696, so these two references do not make this any more notable. Anoopramanujam (talk) 07:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
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