Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chennaiyil oru naal 2


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.  So Why  12:35, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Chennaiyil oru naal 2

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promo The Banner talk 19:55, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:41, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:42, 9 July 2017 (UTC)


 * : alts: WP:INDAFD: Chennaiyil oru naal 2 Chennaiyil oru naal 2 Ram Mohan Rajesh Kumar A day in Coimbatore film


 * Keep In looking, as miserable as the topic first brought to AFD was, I've found this film topic IS sourcable and I've begun some work on format and style. WP:NFF is met.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 09:26, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * might you wish to assist?  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 22:50, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I just keep a close eye on it, to see if you and others are able to get a neutral, well sourced article out of it. So far, the effort failed on that point. The Banner talk 09:42, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:44, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep because of the improvements by which show that this film is notable. Cullen328   Let's discuss it  07:41, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I have nominated the article as "promo" and it still is promo. It is not a neutral article. The Banner talk 08:13, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * An issue with perceived tone would be a matter for correction through regular editing and for a notable topic simply needing work is not a valid reason to delete. Others here believe in WP:WIP. Perhaps you might visit WP:DELREASON and WP:DEL and WP:UGLY. Thanks though for your thoughts.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 08:53, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do know that you do not care about advertising. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 09:19, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * If addressable, hell yes. I have "saved" over 700 such through regular editing. Are you inferring that improving articles is somehow undesirable????  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 03:19, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I have also seen quite a number of articles where you claimed that normal editing could solve the advertising but where you did nothing at all. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 09:06, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm just one person and even with nearly 70,000 edits I cannot edit everything. I imagine it may be easier to sit in judgement and expect/demand others to do the work. No? Yes? Thanks though for allowing me to point out that I as an Admin I still try to be a working and contributing editor.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 21:29, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * But you expect others to start cleaning up the mess... <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 09:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow. An unfortunate mis-statement, when in my ignoring WP:NOTCLEANUP I began immediately doing so after your deletion nomination and inspecting the edits show that under WP:SEP, WP:HANDLE and WP:IMPROVE both I and have been positively addressing issues. I accept the unstated apology.   Schmidt,  Michael Q. 23:34, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, you have a good sense of humour. But this you entice the original author to do something or were it others working on the article? <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 23:54, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It's no longer his. It's everyone's.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 03:15, 19 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment – The article does not have a promotional tone at this time (link), in my opinion. North America1000 09:55, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * True, as I have cut out the spammy sections. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 11:14, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Cut out some and removed a citation... yet you decided to keep a sourced neutral article at AFD as "promo"?  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 03:19, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * What I nominated was neither sourced nor neutral. But I wanted to give you a change to improve the article by adding more sourced content. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 09:03, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * So WP:NOEFFORT equals deletion? Nope. Policy and guideline instruct differently, thanks. Schmidt,  Michael Q. 21:29, 17 July 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.