Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cherokee same sex in history

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The result of the debate was 'Speedied by author request. android 79  21:02, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Cherokee same sex in history
Problem: Not notable or encyclopedic. Also written by user lying on me, as some silly "revenge plt" Molotov (talk)


 * Keep seems legitimate although could be improved. PatGallacher 01:34, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * How is that. It is an absurd topic and if it is to be kept, it should be atleast merged with another article. The entire notion of a "same sex" article of a particular Indian tribe is ludicrous. If this is the case, we should have a Navajo same sex history article, and so forth.  There is no need for this article on Wikipedia. Molotov  (talk) [[Image:Flag of California.svg|25px]] 01:44, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

V. Molotov posted the following threat on Wikipedia in my message box. I consider his edits here to be retaliation. Based upon his statements, I do not believe he can be neutral regarding any article I write. Please **BLOCK** his access to my work. gadugi

FROM V. Molotov to user GADUGI:

Concerning Jeff Merkey

You have no right to post disgusting lies about me. I have never contacted you personally until now...but you need to know that your articles on Jeff Merkey and Cherokee_same_sex_in_history are not notable and you have caused a terrible Wiki Editor wars due to your selfishness. If you continue to lie I can only promise dire consequences And yes, I said your article was Bullcrap...only after YOU refused to give in to that article. DO NOT LIE ON ME AGAIN. I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT LITTE VENDETTA YOU HAVE AGAINST ME. STOP NOW OR I WILL REALLY GET ANGRY I WANT TO SEE WHATEVER DOCUMENT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CONCERNING ME "CUSSING YOU OUT." I DON'T LIKE YOU. PRETTY SOON I WILL START HATING YOU IF YOU KEEP THIS CRAP UP. Molotov (talk) 01:36, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

This individual, V. Molotov, posted this threatenting email on my talk page. **DELETE** V. Molotov frm Wikipedia. Gadugi 07:14, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * This editor is obivously incompotent to this encyclopedia, as he has created several editor wars since he has gotten here. If this idiot wins this argument, I will leave Wikipedia.  I will not be threatened or provoked by this guy...I left him the above message, but it includes no threats.  Also note that this boy has left lies about me here and here - so that is why he has the above message sent to his talk page.  Note that if this article is kept, and this user vindicates over me - after I have contributed thousands of edits to this encyclopedia, and have spent countless hours trying to help newbies - I will leave this encyclopedia, and suggest others to do the same.  RickK is right, there is a fatal flaw in this system.  I have done my best to contribute here while a vandal/idiot like this has literally taken Wikipedia by its balls. Molotov  (talk) [[Image:Flag of California.svg|25px]] 14:50, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * At the very least the article needs sources for its claims. It's currently obscure and completely unverifiable, and thus inappropriate for inclusion in wiki. KSevcik 02:46, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Comment could have potential for an article but would need reliable sources and to be cleaned up for POV. Unless sources are provided, I would vote delete. Capitalistroadster 04:49, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unverified, great hoax potential. --Fire Star 05:45, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Comment If kept it could surely do with a rename to History of Cherokee same sex relationships or similar. Grutness...  wha?  06:33, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete an article on homosexuality among the Cherokee or whatever would be fine, but whatever that article should be called, this shouldn't redirect because it's a nonsensical title. Tuf-Kat 06:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unsourced, unremarkable, unverified factoid. MCB 07:33, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing here - the same could be said for almost any ethnic group in the world--Doc (?) 08:27, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete I removed most of the content for the article already. I feel that any article on homosexuality is very difficult to esspouse as NPOV and will always offend someone as controversial. I created the article and I also wish it to be deleted. Gadugi 16:19, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * In that case it can be a speedy delete. The only edits to the article other than by Gadugi were VFD-related. &mdash; mendel &#9742; 19:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete per Doc, i.a. Dottore So 20:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


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