Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cherry Manor Primary School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to List of schools in Trafford. Tone 19:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Cherry Manor Primary School

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Non-notable primary school with no importance asserted. Prod was removed without comment.  Majorly  talk  23:02, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep This school is notable for having performed so poorly that it was forcibly closed. The article forms part of a group - see also Articles for deletion/Greenhill Primary School. Colonel Warden (talk) 23:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You can't be serious - you're suggesting it's notable for closing? Schools close all the time. And in any case, you're incorrect - it came out of special measures (meaning it improved), and was closed for falling pupil numbers. Any school with numbers well below its population level are closed, as they become too expensive to maintain.  Majorly  talk  23:38, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose the fall in numbers had something to do with its performance. Anyway, these matters were sufficient to be reported and so this topic is notable.  The existence of other closing schools is irrelevant per WP:OTHERSTUFF. Colonel Warden (talk) 23:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you have any reliable third party sources to suggest notability of the school, when it was actually open? Because this just looks like a case of "It's notable because it closed". Which isn't logical.  Majorly  talk  23:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course. I'm going to bed now but shall return. Colonel Warden (talk) 23:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "Consider these views with discretion." And in any case I'm not referring to any article, which is precisely what that essay is about. It's whether other articles exist. I'm simply discussing real life here.  Majorly  talk  23:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 00:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 00:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete I'll change if Colonel Warden establishes notability, however from a quick look around google, it looks unlikely if I'm honest. Jeni  ( talk ) 01:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to List of schools in Trafford per precedent. This is a valid search term. Cunard (talk) 01:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a directory, especially of closed primary schools. --Malleus Fatuorum 21:01, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge/redirect to List of schools in Trafford] per precedent. WP:Before requires consideration of a merge before deletion. TerriersFan (talk) 01:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect Insufficient notability to meet guidelines. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect as above. Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:37, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, no redirect. While secondary schools and school districts are treated as inherently notable, primary schools have to establish notability in the usual way.  When a school within a district does receive significant coverage beyond the local level, then a separate article can be spun out.  Absent significant reasons for its closure, not notable Mandsford (talk) 16:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, no notability stated. Pit-yacker (talk) 18:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not even worth a redirect, as the article completely fails to demonstrate the notability of this rather ordinary primary school. --Malleus Fatuorum 20:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to List of schools in Trafford until there are sufficient reliable sources for an independent V, NPOV, NOR article. Double Blue  (talk) 09:14, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge as above. Consensus is that primary schools are generally NN.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect as above. Lack of notability is a reason to deny an institution its own page but not a reason not to merge or redirect. We routinely merge non-notable subjects into broader, more notable, articles and the redirect helps readers find the material. Bridgeplayer (talk) 21:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect as above. Mukadderat (talk) 22:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.