Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cheryle Chagnon-Greyeyes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  17:13, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Cheryle Chagnon-Greyeyes

 * – ( View AfD View log )


 * Does not meet WP:POLITICIAN.--NL19931993 (talk) 21:46, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2019 December 30.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 22:09, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:15, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:15, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:15, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep as meeting WP:GNG based on the sources. No indication nom did a before on any of the Green Party leaders they AFD'd. ミラP 00:25, 31 December 2019 (UTC
 * Redirect to Green Party of Alberta. It's definitely true that she doesn't clear GNG on the basis of the sources shown here — however, party leaders must always still have either a biographical article or a redirect to the party's list of leaders. So they are redirected to the party's article if they don't clear the bar for a standalone BLP, and may never just be deleted outright. Bearcat (talk) 04:08, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete she ran for election to a seat in the provincial legislature, and came in fifth with 274 voted s - top two finishers had over 10,000 votes each. She was then chosen as leader of one of the province's 6 (7?) political parties, but resigned after a year. Not a notable person.NotButtigieg (talk) 16:10, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment As a community, we've moved away from keeping state and provincial party leaders WP:POLOUTCOMES (see the AfD for Tom Morressey, who was chair of the Arizona Republican Party and related discussion on the Common Outcomes talk page). --Enos733 (talk) 05:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Following my speedy close of the DRV at Deletion review/Log/2020 January 10 I am relisting this. Note that the nominator's opinion should be discounted, as they have been banned, but subsequent good faith !votes should be assessed as normal.
 * Delete fails WP:NPOL, WP:GNG: this is the best source but is functionally an interview, and the remaining sources are simply "new party leader chosen." SportingFlyer  T · C  04:50, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 11:00, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes GNG. I'll drop reliable secondary sources on the talk page of the article. She was the first indigenous woman to serve as leader of a provincial party in Canada. Missvain (talk) 06:39, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Of the six sources you posted at Talk:Cheryle Chagnon-Greyeyes, the only one which I would consider passes WP:GNG is the one I already noted above. The others are all routine (brief articles about her being appointed/resigned), aren't about her (the oil sands thing), or are an interview (not independent.) She's not over the line. SportingFlyer  T · C  07:30, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I, of course, disagree with you. We will see what the community says :) Missvain (talk) 17:42, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I am returning for a second look, but this individual still fails to meet the standards set out in WP:NPOL, and it continues to be true that no one has found enough good sources about her to merit an article by our notability standards.NotButtigieg (talk) 23:49, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:ROUTINE doesn't apply to people, so GNG applies. ミラP 00:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I wish you would stop making this incorrect argument across multiple AfDs. WP:ROUTINE applies to coverage. SportingFlyer  T · C  00:19, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Says nothing about people, just those involved in the event [who] are also promoting it. Besides, Missvain mentioned the "first First Nations leader of a provincial party" part and the GNG sources, so that should be good enough. ミラP 00:39, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't really care what it says, we have a longstanding tradition of judging minor, local political figures against whether their coverage is routine, since almost every politician will receive some sort of coverage. We have three articles discussing the fact she was appointed and one discussing her resignation, which are distinctly routine, and one article that's actually about her. She was also a losing candidate who didn't even receive 300 votes. That's not enough. While I'm sympathetic to the "first X of Y" argument, that is not enough when the article definitively fails WP:GNG. SportingFlyer  T · C  03:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.