Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cheyenne (Amtrak station)


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The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Cheyenne (Amtrak station)

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This was a Thruway Motorcoach stop with connecting service to Amtrak's California Zephyr until December 2007 when the carrier, Powder River Bus Company, discontinued route service in Wyoming and three other states (see and . Black Hills Stages does still provide service to Cheyenne, but it runs out of the Rodeway Inn, which is on the other side of town. It might be worth a mention in the Zephyr article, but a former bus stop probably fails WP:LOCAL. Mackensen (talk) 23:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete: if it was a physical structure, then there would be a case for inclusion. It appears that there isn't.  --RFBailey (talk) 03:23, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Question: - Was this ever a genuine railroad station before it was an Amtrak Thruway Motorcoach bus stop? I tried to figure it out with the links you showed me, but my PC wasn't letting me find out. DanTD (talk) 03:41, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't appear to be. The listed address isn't along an existing right-of-way, but I can't find reliable information (yet) about where the Pioneer stopped. The old Union Pacific depot is now a museum, but the history pages suggest that Amtrak didn't use or stopped using it. Mackensen (talk) 04:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Google StreetView pictures show this building (called the Powder River Bus Depot) as nowhere near a railroad right-of-way (41.1216°N, -104.8043°W), and although I have no inkling when the vehicle passed by it to take the picture, a for sale sign was up in front of the building. Likely little notability, even in Cheyenne.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 05:24, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete this as a Thruway bus stop does not have the kind of fixture as a railway station does. Cheyenne does have a former rail depot, now a museum and National Historic Landmark (Wyoming Transportation Museum), but I don't think Amtrak ever went there so I cannot support a redirect. Sjakkalle (Check!)  12:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Cheyenne's actual Amtrak station was at Borie, ten miles out of town (located 41.0907°N, -104.98977°W). It's basically a shack by the tracks. The "station" in town was a storefront providing ticketing and a place to board a connecting bus. My notability standards have proven to be stiffer than others here are willing to agree with, so I offer no commentary on whether either spot merits an article. Mangoe (talk) 14:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply -- Okay, Mangoe, you've convince me. Although even if Cheyenne's Amtrak station were just a shack by the tracks, I would've tried to keep it. If this were still an active bus station, I'd suggest giving the article away to WikiProject Buses, and see what they'd do with it, or try to improve it from there. Otherwise I'm going to have to go along with a lot of you and say delete this one. DanTD (talk) 14:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge with California Zephyr. No evidence of notability, but is interesting for hsiotrical purposes. Bearian (talk) 20:56, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I would like to point out that the CZ never served Cheyenne. The San Francisco Zephyr served it, followed by one version of the Pioneer. Mangoe (talk) 21:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * He's referring to the affiliated Thruway Motorcoach service, which connected the CZ with this particular location. Mackensen (talk) 23:40, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Not to be difficult or anything, but where was the connection made? Mangoe (talk) 16:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Per this the connection was in Denver. Mackensen (talk) 22:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm... That would seem to leave us, possibly, with three Cheyenne stations, since I don't think the trip-to-Borie storefront station was at the same location as the now-discontinued Thruway service. Besides the problem that the SF Zephyr needs its own article anyway, I don't think we can say that Cheyenne, as an Amtrak stop, hews only to the CF; it's actually connected to three different train names. Mangoe (talk) 02:39, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete I doubt many people in Cheyenne are even aware of this structure -Drdisque (talk) 03:18, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.