Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chhattari State


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Chhatari. Clearly a mistake as an article already exists on the same topic. We don't carry two articles on the same subject. Redirecting Chhattari State to Chhatari. Discussions on the appropriate name should be carried out at Requested moves   SilkTork   ✔Tea time  10:26, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Chhattari State

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The Chhatari was never a princely state. The google search gives zero  result. It was an estate or jagir. There already exists a page called Chhatari, in which already the contents have been added by me. The page title is wrong. It should be deleted immediatly.Jethwarp (talk) 06:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC) Jethwarp (talk) 06:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 23:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. I am far from being an authority on the subject, so please explain. My meager understanding is that Nawab is a title of a ruler of a princely state, the Muslim equivalent to Maharaja. A ruler of a jagir is usually a jagirdar, not a Nawab. I see sources for the existence of Mahmud Ali Khan, Nawab of Chhatari,, would that not mean Chhatari was a princely state? I do agree that even if this is true, the material can just as well be merged into Chhatari with redirects from Nawab of Chhatari, Chhatari State and Chhatari (princely state) (see for example the same thing with Sachin, Gujarat and redirects from Nawab of Sachin, Sachin State and Sachin (princely state)). --Muhandes (talk) 07:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: Please see Nawab, it clearly mentions that : The title of Nawab was also awarded as a personal distinction by the paramount power, similarl to a British peerage, to persons and families who never ruled a princely state . Silmilarly there were many Estate Holders, who styled themselves as Raja like Raj Darbhanga and Ramgarh Raj, who were categorised as Zamindars. Also as regards to Sachin, Gujarat there are enough ref to prove it was a Princely State but same is not case with Chhatari . The Nawab of Chhatari is a personal title and article on his name is Muhammad Ahmad Said Khan Chhatari is here. Admins should see that since Wiki is an encyclopaedia, it should not have wrong Article name - giving mis-conception that it was a Princely State.Jethwarp (talk) 06:06, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll take your word for it. --Muhandes (talk) 09:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:04, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment : I would request admins that the creator of page has already added the details available in this article also to page Chhatari, so it would be proper that the page is deleted as sometimes admins prefer to redirect page for attribution purpose. Jethwarp (talk) 03:52, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Suggestion - sorry, but since content was merged, here, whatever happens to this page it cannot be out-rightly deleted for the attribution reason that you alluded to. A straight deletion would breach our GFDL licence. If the closing admin considers that a redirect is inappropriate then the alternative method would be to move this page to a sub-page of Talk:Chhatari, provide a link from there and delete the resulting redirect. That preserves attribution without a potentially misleading redirect. Bridgeplayer (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.