Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chicago Cubs futility theories


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. WP:NOR/WP:SYNTH. Jayjg (talk) 02:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Chicago Cubs futility theories

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This article consists almost entirely of original research by synthesis. The various items lumped into this page appear to have been connected solely by Wikipedia editors, not by third-party reliable sources. The various "curse" rumors can be best addressed in those specific articles, which already exist. *** Crotalus *** 17:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Can someone please put an tag on this article? I'm autoblocked at the moment... &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 19:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC) Never mind, I guess my autoblock was just lifted. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 19:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  00:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete it's actually an interesting article and would make a great blog post, but sadly, it's not wiki material. AbbaIkea2010 (talk) 22:49, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep in terms of subject matter it is as encyclopedic as Curse of the Bambino, but there is not a well known name that fans would search for. Most would probably search for Curse of the Billy Goat, which should probably be merged with this or otherwise prominently linked.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:12, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Curse of the Billy Goat. Surprisingly, there are ten redirects to that article and not a single one of them refers to the Chicago Cubs.  Some of the content from this article would be appropriate there.  However, this is nothing more than revisiting the "curse" with a quasi-scientific approach labelled "futility theories".  I agree with Abba that this would be great material for a blog, but as a Wikipedia article, it's been done. Mandsford (talk) 14:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep this article has a lot to offer.... however, I'll admit that as the creator of the page I've neglected it a bit.... it needs work and certain parts may be in need of an upgrade, however, it's notable and valid, sadly. I nominate we keep it and open it up to a peer review. Wjmummert (KA-BOOOOM!!!!) 17:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge with Curse of the Billy Goat.Essentially the same thing. Spanneraol (talk) 04:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Needs some clean up and the move/rename option on the article talk page seems like a better option than merge. Article deals with many broad issues (some requiring some clean up i think) as to why the team hasnt won for 102 years. But Id perfer it not to be futility in the name. Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:07, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete the equivalent of tabloid gossip.   DGG ( talk ) 02:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is just one large analysis of why the Cubs haven't won a World Series in a century, rife with synthesis and original research. Stuff like "In other years the Cubs have shown they can win, or at least contend, when their pitching is superior.", belongs on a baseball website, not an encyclopedia.--Atlan (talk) 09:53, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Changing my vote from a redirect to the existing article about the curse, since there seems to be some opposition to that. The idea of an additional article to "explain" why the Chicago Cubs haven't gone to the World Series in more than 60 years sets a bad precedent.  I suppose that we could do similar analyses about why a particular team hasn't made it to the World Series, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, NBA Finals, etc. in for any stretch of time.  The Chicago Cubs annual failure is a notable part of American folklore, but not such that it becomes a branch of science.  This is a semi-interesting essay, with some citations to statements such as the weather being humid in Chicago in July, or the teams record in a particular year.  It's not its own encyclopedia article.  Mandsford (talk) 17:58, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.