Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chicken John (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The consensus here is clearly for the article to be retained. The nominator is neutral, and the sole delete !vote has been refuted with guideline-based rationales and source examples to qualify them in the discussion. (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 12:58, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Chicken John
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I deleted this article in August 2012 after a previous AfD discussion. However, after a discussion on my talk page, and a fresh look at all the sources, I think this deletion may not have been warranted, so I am listing it here for further debate. I am neutral as to the outcome. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 01:05, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep has received significant coverage in reliable sources. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 03:10, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete, still fails WP:POLITICIAN, but the subject has received passing mention (not being the primary subject of the source) in reliable and non-reliable sources. The subject is now "selfpublished", but I am not sure if the subject is notable enough as a writer to pass WP:AUTHOR. Perhaps WP:TOOSOON would best describe my opinion on the subject at this point.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:56, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep notable for participation in local politics, early involvement in Burning Man and Camp Tipsy. Covered in reliable sources.  Chicken John's notoriety may be geographically local but he's definitely a notable person in the SF Bay Area. J.Mayer (talk) 18:17, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Rinaldi is the primary subject of numerous WP:RS articles, such as SF Chronicle Mother Jones Huffington Post Reason Magazine. Though I agree his mayoral run is not notable, his self-published book was reviewed in SF Chronicle, distinguishing it from most self-published books. Pro crast in a tor (talk) 00:56, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Rinaldi continues to be covered by local media for his participation in local culture and politics. His activities and events he hosts are covered by local and national media.  John Turner (talk) 07:55, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep This Wikipage is fully sourced with references from notable publications. That is the requirement for notability. We don't subjectively decide who is worthy or not for inclusion. We only look to notable references, and to see if notable references are provided to back up all text. This wikipage objectively satisfies that requirement. This is a no-brainer. TBliss (talk) 19:14, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep The article has been heavily edited from its former version to eliminate all WP:SPS for neutrality's sake (much to my chagrin, as I considered them contextually valuable). Even though it's half its original length, there are still several reliable independent sources which strongly suggest notability. Focusing on WP:AUTHOR or WP:POLITICIAN (or maybe WP:MUSIC for that matter) seems to be missing a bigger point: Chicken John is known for many things — and this is what the sources show. OrinR (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. It seems sufficiently well-sourced to establish notability. Gamaliel (talk) 18:29, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Satisfies WP:GNG.--JayJasper (talk) 18:50, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:BIO through coverage in a wide variety of reliable sources. The New York Times piece gives him several paragraphs and his involvement in Cacophony, The Murder Junkies, as well as his mayoral campaign, when combined, establish notability. Gobōnobō  + c 19:24, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Perhaps even a snow, given the consensus above.  Enough RS coverage to meet GNG.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:55, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.